• Delphia@lemmy.world
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    Nutrition labels on packaged foods should also contain the information for “This is for when you monster the whole packet in one sitting”

    Cooking instructions should also not require me to preheat the oven. Dinner isnt coming out of a frozen cardboard box because I’m excellent about thinking ahead.

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      Quite a few do now. There will be a serving size, calories per serving, servings per container, and a second column containing the totals for the entire container. This is usually on smaller packaged foods, snacks and the like. Unfortunately it’s not standardized to have the second set.

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      If whole = whole

      How does,

      partial whole = complete nutriciousness in your retarded ass world? PS7 giveout tickets upon reception of comment, bootcg.

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      Technically correct. However, digesting protein burns a lot of calories, whilst digesting carbs doesn’t. So in reality protein is closer to 3 calories per gram. Luckily nutrition labels already take this into account

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    Can someone explain for non american, why in usa food nutrition facts is measured in arbitrary serving sizes? In my country almost every food is measured exactly by 100g, while the rest may measure it by total package.

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      That serving size is anything but arbitrary.

      Take TicTac for example. Serving size: 1 TicTac. Which is just below 0.5g. So one serving contains less than 0.5g sugar (despite being 99.x% sugar!), which means it can be advertized as sugar free in some locations.

      Or frozen pizza. Serving size: 1/3 pizza. Seriously? 1/3? Yes, because with that serving size, it keeps fat and salt ratings below the recommended daily intake.

      Those serving sizes, while they are far from making sense for the consumer, are chosen very deliberate.

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      Because 100 grams isn’t relevant for many foods.

      If I’m making a sandwich, I’m using 2 pieces of bread, not 100 grams. Having the nutrition information denominated in slices simplifies calculating how many calories/macros/etc. I am eating.

      In Europe, it is really bad with snacks. You can buy a pack of individually-wrapped chocolates, and the nutrition label will helpfully tell you there is 500 billion calories in 100g. Thankfully, I am not looking to eat a quarter pound of chocolate in one sitting, but I would be interested in knowing (without getting a scale and doing the math) on what one of the chocolates contains.

      Serving sizes are imperfect, and in general American food is trash nutrition-wise, but the labeling standards are quite good. My biggest complaint is the loophole allowing 0.5g and less of sugar/trans fat/etc to be reported as 0g - not anything to do with the serving size.

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        In europe you will mostly see beside the 100g a “per portion” or “per piece”

        cereal nutrition facts

        Rusks nutrition facts

        The orange one is per rusk, the blue one is per 100g

        Some products may not have it i think but it never happened to me to not find it

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        To me it doesn’t matter if it’s directly relevant when I’m trying to compare one product in the store to another one.

        If one brand says two slices but its a weird shape and the other has slightly larger slices in a normal shape I can’t tell which one has more calories.

        I think they should always have three categories, package size, serving size, and 100g

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        It’s better for comparing two chocolates against each other. Besides, 100g is a standard bar of chocolate. It will also have the full weight of the product with nutritional information. So dividing by no. of pieces should be easy.

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      That is not an American thing, most packages in Europe will also include some arbitrary/common measure along side the standardised one.

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        That’s the point, they’re only along side the standardised one. It makes it much easier to compare products.

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            Well sometimes I want to compare nuts to other things. I want to be able to picture how MUCH of something contains how much energy (like when figuring out what best to snack on without jeopardizing my figure :p). I also want to be able to compare the energy per price of different products, like when figuring out the most calorie dense option for taking a hike etc. These are just examples. All I’m saying is that a fixed quantity on every product makes some mental math much easier. Similarly how all price tags (where I’m from) have the nominal price of the product AND the price normalized to 1kg of weight.

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      Regulatory capture. The 5 companies that make and distribute all American food want to be able to control how the nutritional content appears to people. So they can better manipulate them into eating more, or less healthy products. It’s intentionally done to rob consumers of agency.

      These cashews are a great example. People don’t want to eat 1,000 calories in a sitting. So the company displays the nutritional information in such a way that it looks like a “serving” is only 100 calories. They do this when the salt or fat content is very high as well.

      The most egregious example is that they used to do this with a single candy bar too, but a few years ago the regulatory body finally told them they couldn’t do that anymore. So now the two-hand sized Snickers in a single wrapper is split into “two bars”. The big-ass coke in a single bottle still gets to pretend it’s 2.5 servings though.

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        The big-ass coke in a single bottle still gets to pretend it’s 2.5 servings though.

        The really funny thing is that back in the day it was even worse. They had ads claiming a 12oz Coke bottle was 3 “large” servings, and a lady serving little whiskey glasses of it to her friends.

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      The amount of something you’re going to eat will vary significantly based on what it is. That said, you’re going to find in the US that categories are pretty standard, for example the serving size for nuts is pretty much always 1/4 cup/28g. 100g of most nuts is way too much to be a recommended serving size

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      Because Americans are/want to be special snowflakes and therefore do everything differently from the rest of the world lol

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    Did they not tare the scale before hand? That seems like those cashews are made out of lead.

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    They’re nuts dude, there’s a reason you carry them when you’re hiking. Very calorie and nutrient dense.

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      Yeah if 12g out of 28 is fat, that’s nearly 50%. Fat has twice as many calories per gram as carbs or protein (but at least unlike carbs, fat gives you the feeling of fullness, just also gives you a bunch of calories in the process)

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    Weight out 280g, wash it down with black coffee and a multivitamin, and that’s your dietary needs sorted for the day. Very time efficient.

    There is no way you will regret your life decisions in a few days when you finally try to poop it out. “Living the same lifestyle as Elvis.”

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    Yep, eight costco pretzel bites though. Makes a nice snack. Portion control is an eye-opening experience.

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    Calorie counting can be eye opening. That said, calories from nuts in particular don’t seem to be absorbed very well

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      Huh, do tell. I thought the whole point of nutritional labels is that they estimate the kcal intake from heuristically determined values for the contained fats, carbs, and proteins, i.e., we get 4kcal per gram of carbs and proteins and 9kcal per gram of fat.

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        Iirc they estimate the kcal by blasting it with fire and seeing how much comes out. Or something similar. They don’t really get into how well the human body digests and uses it.

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          No, that is incorrect.

          Nutrition labels take the into account how well macros are absorbed and even the calories burned to digest them (protein and carbs technically contain the same amount of calories, but protein is counted as less on the nutritional label because digesting protein burns calories).

          If we still measured calories by burning food, then the calories on food with lots of fiber would be wildly inaccurate

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          What I read is that they put humans in a bath and measured how much it warmed up or something like that, so it is supposed to be based on digestion

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    You’ll lose your mind once you see how much sugar is in everything.

    Honey Nut Cheerios? The “healthy breakfast choice” we were told? Serving size is 1 cup. ~25% of the recommended daily sugar. 1 cup doesn’t fill a bowl or your stomach so you eat 2 cups, boom 50% of your daily sugar. You grab a can (12oz) of Dr Pepper with lunch? Boom that’s another ~75% of your daily recommended sugar.

    It’s not even dinner and your over your sugar quota. Like 80 grams of sugar in two items.

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      Every few months I track the nutritional values of everything I eat for a few days. It’s insane how much small things can balloon from OK to insane.

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      Does someone who cares about their sugar intake drink a Dr. Pepper on the reg? Surely by this point everyone knows sodas are just liquid sugar, right?

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        People seem to know but not really care. And you are not allowed to tell them. I was at a wedding and there were like 6 children from 3 to 8 years old. They juat smashed coce and fanta like it’s nothing. One of the kids was double fisting two cans of coke, and i thought that people don’t realise, because they juat picked it out of a cooler, no one was handing them out. When i told tge mom of the kid, she was kind of mad and said it’s fine, it’s an exception today. Usually he only gets one or two cans a day. My sister comprised by not giving their kids soda but gives them a ton of orange juice. I told her that it’s kind of the same amount of sugar, and she got mad and said something like: yeah but it’s the healthy kind. I’m at a point where i just don’t care anymore. Let your child eat pasta and ketchup in a 1:1 ratio then.

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          Yeah, let them. It’s their body. I mean, sure, you pay for their faults because your health insurance go up if society decides that all should drink too much soda. But other than that it’s their choice. You can briefly say something, but if they wont accept it, it’s okay.

          Our kids get absolutely no soda. But I’m with the wedding mom on this one. It’s an exceptional day. Let them have fun and get wasted on sugar. They will remember the hangover the next time they see soda. Or maybe not. Live and let live.

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      It’s sugar if you’re lucky. Everything is mostly corn syrup. “Healthy” cereals are a huge offender here.

  • I know these aren’t peanuts but I recently learned of the “peanut paradox.” Peanuts have quite a bit of calories; but your body can’t break down the cell walls of peanuts very well, so you only actually take on a fraction of those calories.