I mean, I’m an anarchist and I don’t find women with septum piercings sexually appealing.
Then again, I am a gay man.
Then again, I am a gay man.
Small detail.
Barely worth mentioning.
Negligible
How about men with septum piercings?
Pretty hot, ngl. 🤷♂️
I just find them unnattractive; generally not into piercings or tattoos. To each their own…
Same, and it’s not something I really care to shout from the roof because why does my opinion matter and I don’t want to tell people what to do in the first place, but it’s also something I can never say even in passing because of what group of people it puts me in
Same.
Although maybe “unnattractive” isn’t a good fit because I do understand that it’s not a woman’s default objective to “be attractive” to me. It’s more just that maybe I’m a bit weird about ears and noses. If you have something hanging out of your nose my lizard brain alerts me that it’s probably a booger. My more sophisticated hominid brain is aware that it’s not, but this creates a kind of unsolvable feedback loop that’s unsolvable.
Yesterday I was interviewing a candidate for a job. I’m genuinely trying to listen and engage with this cacophony of booger not-booger booger not-booger going on.
I didn’t say it was anyone’s objective to be attractive to me. And it isn’t. I just have (as does everyone else) the agency to decide for myself what I find attractive or not.
Thank you for pointing out the possibly ambiguity of my response though, so I could clarify.
Do you decide what you find attractive? Or just observe and notice? Could you decide that something is attractive for you?
Good observation; maybe ‘decide’ isn’t the best word.
We happen to be attracted to whatever we are attracted to… It’s subconscious, really, perhaps partly stemming back to childhood experienced and parentally instilled values…
Yes, i decided by observing and noticing.
That’s how attraction works.
Im not just by default attracted to one hair style or a specific skin color.
I observe and notice what attracts me and make a decision.
Although maybe “unnattractive” isn’t a good fit because I do understand that it’s not a woman’s default objective to “be attractive” to me.
When you say that something is unattractive , it’s your personal opinion which you are entitled to. It’s fine. We are people, we are diverse.
Im not so sure about that. Of course its fine to not be attracted to different traits, thats not in question. The problem is what we say.
If someone says they find a phrase impolite, or that they find a meal bland, there’s an implication that the thing has not met that person’s expectations.
People dont sail around expressing their opinion that they find something unattractive for that very reason.
If someone says they find a phrase impolite, or that they find a meal bland
And that’s an opinion too. That’s fine.
You chopped my sentence in half in order to avoid acknowledging the point i made?
The second half doesn’t change the essence of the phrase. If it does and I didn’t understand it - please elaborate.
Having an opinion is fine.
Stating that you have a negative opinion implies that something is unsatisfactory.
I find smoking unattractive.
Hottest thing ever. Tastes and smells revolting. Eventually kills the person, but fuck if my growing up in the 90s brain doesn’t immediately equate smoking with “ooooh mysterious, probably reads a lot of Russian fiction, hot af.”
IMO this isn’t a special case. Most smokers don’t want to be smokers, they are unable to stop. It’s fine that you find smoking unattractive, but telling everyone just makes you a bit of a jerk IMO.
Its wild to me verbalizing turn-ons and turn-offs is considered rude nowadays.
It used to be considered prudent and realistic.
Not wasting my time or their time is polite.
If you don’t want to date people who enjoy role play, sure. It’s not rude to make people aware of that. Fine.
If you don’t want to date people who are overweight, that’s fine. However, if you say that to someone they will probably find you to be a bit of a jerk.
There was a time, decades ago, when smoking was much more common that it was seen as something more like a choice or preference - maybe vaping enjoys that category these days. Now that smoking is much more unusual it’s more like a type of substance abuse. Any smoker hoping to form a meaningful relationship would be aware that it’s an impediment.
You can avoid wasting people’s time simply by not consuming it.
Oh cool I’m not the only one, though for me it’s my lizard brain thinking their injured and wanting to fix it. Doesn’t apply to tattoos though since those get classified under scars.
I have a sensory issue when I see piercings. If I see someone with a nose ring, I feel it in my nose, but like the thickest part of the ring going through my nose.
Nose rings are for cows 😀
I’m ready for the downvotes
Literally comparing a woman to an actual piece property is probably deserving of the down votes 😅
The only person living in the apartment building is her, and it belongs to her. She can decorate it however she likes.
Folks really need to start interrogating how entitled they feel to women’s bodies catering their aesthetic desires and fantasies. You dont know that woman- why do you feel so comfortable comparing her to property?
Its literally her body to live in, I’m not sure how what you like matters even a little bit.
She can decorate it however she likes.
And will be shocked I tell you when no one of quality moves in.
Lots of folks of quality happen to like tattoos. It’s an aesthetic preference not a measure of character, I know planty of tatooed punks I’d date any day of the week over someone like you.
So far you’ve really only demonstrated that people who are comfortable comparing women or black folks to property won’t be interested in “moving in” which is a weird and gross metaphor. No one moves in. They have their own house. That they can ALSO decorate their own place however they please.
How that random lady whos picture you got off the internet looks is none of your fucking business. Who she chooses to date is none of your business.
Please unpack your shit so that all the people who share space with you dont have to deal with the chauvinism you internalized. We all have shit to unpack, I have internalized shit I am working to unpack, but people around you dont deserve to be subjected to a weird entitlement to what they do with their bodies.
My brother in Christ don’t compare black men to property either. I literally JUST pointed out that it was comparing a person to property, did literally zero thoughts go through your head before you posted this?
I do not have words for how gross the choice to post this is
Since we are sharing what we think other people should think about. You know what people really need to interrogate IMO?
Friendly fire.
You have, in this post, concocted a cockamamie, pretty awkward framework with which to argue with other people about your progressive views on women’s bodies. Thing is you’re using people who most likely already agree with you regarding this topic as target practice.
You’re not progressing that cause here, very few (if any) people on lemony whatever are on the other side of this issue, you are self aggrandising based on how clever you think your point is. It denigrates the cause by making proponents of that cause look disorganised, confused and ornery.
Its an image comparing a woman’s body to property. Pointing out how much it sucks to post something like that isnt “friendly fire”, its the only appropriate way to respond.
I pretty regularly see people comment or post sexist shit here, which isnt surprising given a huge amount of the users came from reddit. We all have stuff to unpack, including me. But when you see stuff like that you call it out.
It’s a little unreal to me that with half of lemmy I have to argue there isn’t a secret fascist psyop any time someone doesn’t agree with them, and then I apparently also have to explain that no, people on lemmy ARE in fact very capable of sexism (that is largely a vent in general, and my frustration about the former half is not directed at you. Its just disorienting the range of conceptions about who this platform is made out of)
Even if everyone on this platform is a leftist (which is not the case, there are plenty of liberals), peoples political ideology does not make them immune to carrying the social conditioning of growing up in a society that sees some folks are more or less legitimate, autonomous humans than others. Leftists are 1000% capable of sexism, racism, homophobia, transphobia, and all manner of other harmful internalized ideas.
Why the hell would people on lemmy not be capable of sexism? I saw someone post some sexist shit like literally yesterday. I politely pointed out that it was innapropriate and they took the post down.
Deciding maybe Bernie has a point that billionaires have too much money doesnt equate to having unpacked all the harmful cultral bullshit you pick up as normal in society. Don’t compare women to property. And calling it out when someone does that isn’t “friendly fire”. If they didn’t have any shit to unpack they wouldn’t post something like that.
Jesus bruh.
Sorry for the wall of text, I’m tired of people hiding from unpacking their garbage while saying harmful things to the spaces I care about.
Women deserve to be able to come here and not feel like this spaces sees them as lesser humans whose humanity is only legitimate when they are gratifying enough to men. It’s a direct comparison to property, everyone here should be able to see thats wrong.
And then he doubled down and posted a meme that compares a tattooed black man to property.
I understand. I’m sure everyone has flown off the handle from time to time. I certainly have. I’m honestly just concerned. Your post felt like someone who is experiencing a great deal of stress probably from more than one source. You really should find a way to reflect and give yourself a little room to breathe. Give your mind some space to relax and expand. It’s abundantly clear that you mean well but when you become over invested in the massive amount of problems in the world out there it’s possible for one begin to neglect ones self. Take care ok?
Same side? The comparison in the picture was so crazy out of pocket that I was struggling to even wrap my head around what was being conveyed until it was pointed out. Ain’t none of my friends making comparisons like that unless they’ve had a chud conservative phase and they quit that shit. Regardless of how attractive they find tattoos.
The gender of the person being demeaned doesn’t change my view on it for what it’s worth.
(He also just pivoted to comparing a black man’s body to property. As if thats better and somehow works as a “gotcha”)
I think most would agree that the building doesn’t look good, while tor the woman, it depends on if tatoos are a turn-off or if you’re fine with them.
I’m fine with tatoos and the woman is beautiful to me.
Why can’t I say as much about the building despite graffiti being arguably like tatoos? If you think about it a bit, the answer is obvious.
The woman is the one who decides what to put and where on her body. In that sense, it’s part of her expression, her identity. She didn’t draw them herself, but since she made decisions to express what she wants, it makes it her art to a point.
While there was not one person to decide for the building. Several came and drew whatever. And often without a lot of effort or skill going in. The point here is mostly to say This is me. I was there. Look what daring edgy thing I did in a place that’s hard to reach.
If a lot of people took markers and wrote their name on a woman’s body without much effort or skill and without striving for some sort of cohesion to the overall endeavour, I don’t think it would have been appealing, either to an onlooker or the woman herself.
Bet the plumbing still works on the lady though.
Ha!
You’re so lucky you don’t have a photo.
Same can be said for you
Now post a photo of what you look like
Nope: I’m content being anonymous.
You’re not only a fucking loser, but also a coward.
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It’s the topic of discussion. And this is a place to share thoughts, ideas and opinions. Since this wasn’t somebody’s post for themselves, they gave their opinion. Rather respectfully, I might add. So although we like to pretend everyone is of all the same opinions here, that’s not the case.
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Work on your reading comprehension. “People who don’t like nose rings are pedophiles” is the bigger statement they were responding to
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Am I the only one low-key annoyed that the photo does not show a septum piercing (I understand it’s called a “smiley” piercing–done on the frenulum of the upper lip)? It’s Alysa Liu’s signature look.
Nah I was squinting at the picture trying to find it.
your wife walks by
400X view of some girl’s nose on your monitor
“…I don’t even wanna know”
Septum rings were originally used to control livestock.
Real ones love people with septum rings because they’re submissive and breedable.
:3
:3
Ha! I thought the punchline would be something like “they’re an effective deterrent.”
Reminds me of this gem:
That rainbow hair looks cool af
Unfortunately, not for very long
That’s pure gold!
Oh damn! That response is fucking brutal.
If I’m ever single again I may get one just to help filter out closet conservatives.
Same.
I expect Bluey tattoos to start becoming more popular in red states.
Because Bluey is Australian? I’ve got to be missing something there…
Maybe it was a bit a reach for a joke. It’s just that some conservatives have called tattos on women “unattractive.” So if parents started letting their young kids get tattoos as a repellent, those kids might choose childrens’ TV show characters like Bluey.
They hate anyone who doesn’t fit their standard of conformity
I find them aesthetically off-putting, but I don’t assign any “value” (positive or negative) to it. I view it as a fashion choice. I’m sure that my own choice of style is not to some people’s liking either.
I’m not the target audience for it anyhow, so whatever.
I love septum piercings, and piercings in general. And tattoos. And weird hair.
I don’t necessarily find them unattractive but I find that I don’t have confidence to approach women with them.
I’m sorry what? You gotta be over 18 to get a septum piercing in USA? Why???
Infection liability, gotta be old enough to sign that you won’t sue for infection or disfigurement.
I think your parent can sign those for you though
Parent can let you get anything if they let you. You mist be 18 to do it for yourself.
Sure but it’s actually legal, a parent can’t legally buy you cigarettes or alcohol for example.
parents can booze-up their kids in wisconsin, as long as it’s in their presence.
I think that’s most states. As long as the parent is still responsible for the kid drinking and they stay home.
In Wisconsin you can bring them into a bar and buy them a drink.
I can guarantee you that is not true, at least not in every state.
Suing for infection? It’s practically impossible to prove an infection was from an error by the piercer. It’s more likely the person just didn’t clean it properly.
In the US, nearly anyone can sue for nearly anything. It doesn’t mean that they would win, but it can make life very painful for the party being sued.
Hence the waivers
You can but you’d need to have a parent present to give permission. Or…you can be me in your teens and just do all your own piercings.
Where I live I think you can get these kinds of piercings at 16. And I’ve never met anyone that still have these that over age 25.
When I see these I automatically think the person is a teenager.
I know plenty of bisexuals in their 30s with one
I have one I’m 39. But I don’t wear a ring in it. Just a tunnel so I can stick stuff through my nose and freak people out
Right, so I wouldn’t be able to see it if I met you in person? Did you have a ring in it in the past?
Friggin gottem PEW PEW PEW Space Cowboy
Only when I first got it but I wore it hidden a lot then too. Then I stretched it up a few sizes. I like that it’s hidden and people don’t know.
I have other facial piercings too. At some point it’s just too many metal things lol
At what age did you stop wearing the ring?
I don’t know what’s wrong with me but septum piercings on women are the sexiest thing ever, for some reason I don’t feel the same way about them on men.
No offense but I don’t like piercings on men. Pierced women are so hot though.
That’s Alysa Liu and iirc she did that piercing herself.
not a fan of the booger piercing, but just a personal taste thing
When my husband got his he said he could smell it healing and that’s a no for me dawg. He removed it not long after.
That’s not technically correct though. At least it wasn’t many years ago. People can get pierced with a guardian’s approval and sign off. They cannot get a tattoo though.
Depends on your jurisdiction. In most places in Australia, a parent or guardian is absolutely able to provide consent for their child to get a tattoo. Good luck finding a decent tattoo artist who’s willing to take on the commission though.
I mentioned in another post that I knew an underage girl who got hers at “tattoo parties,” where a guy comes and tats everybody, no questions asked. I have no idea who arranged it, or what the deal was. You now know everything I know about it, except I know this person very well, and knew her when she was underage and got her tats, so I fully believe her. She just said “Yeah, we had a party, and a guy came and gave tats to anyone who wanted one.”
Hers were really nice, very professional looking.
We had those, but it was always one of the punks in the friend group who had got their hands on a tattoo gun.
The tattoos produced generally weren’t great, but I could see a young dude/dudette with artistic talent putting cool shit on their friends for practice.
Lots of artists start out my tatting themselves.
I’ve known plenty of underage girls with tattoos. One told me that she got hers at parties where a bunch of kids got together and paid a pro to come to the house and give them all tats. I know for a fact that she wasn’t a rich kid, so it must not have cost that much. Her tats were nice too, not like it was some amateur experimenting on minors.
Questionable Content correctly pointed out that there is no minimum age to purchase a tattoo gun.
But technically it says generally.
My sister has piercings and a tattoo and she’s 17 i think. Some shitface asked her out at a gym because “no way you are less than 18, you have a tattoo”
You “think?” You don’t know how old your sister is? Do you know if she’s younger or older than you?
