• tomiant@piefed.social
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    10 days ago

    Japanese salmon nigiri weren’t a thing until the 1980’s when Norway launched a trade push to open up a new market there.

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      10 days ago

      That also makes sense from a tech standpoint. Ocean salmon aren’t safe for sushi, they have have too many parasites. You need to either catch them from the river they spawn in before they get to the ocean for the first time, or from a lake, which iirc Japan didnt have any lakes with salmon populations. (Harvesting from streams at scale is also a bad idea, because they wont have had a chance to breed so youre going to be killing off a portion of the population)

      Even then its dicey; for raw, you really want farmed salmon, that are bred in a tank, with no parasites in the water.

      So it wasnt until global shipping and really the rise of factory farmed fish, that safe enough populations of salmon existed.

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        9 days ago

        That’s right! It just blew my mind when I learned about it because it feels like it should be this ancient Japanese ur-sushi, yet it’s a very modern invention, or perhaps innovation is a better word here.

        It’s like chili in Asian food is not older than some three hundred years, before that they had their various spice mixes to achieve a similar result. Or tomatoes in Italy, same thing, and pasta as well. I mean potatoes came to Europe in the 1700’s…

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      10 days ago

      If time travel is ever invented I’d love to give a plaeolithic hunter gatherer a crunch wrap

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      10 days ago

      I heard you could send a strongly worded crunchwrap through the mail, instead of hiring a lawyer. But one of the guys on that podcast turned out to be a creep and the joke fucking dematerialized.

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      10 days ago

      Just need a chutney that was developed in the 90s, and then we can make a delicious chutney+blue ciabatta sandwich that’s all younger than you think.

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      10 days ago

      Counterpoint:

      Obviously all the good breads already been invented.

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    10 days ago

    Did they invent the little ciabattas they use for sandwich plates at the same time, or did those come later?