I can’t believe I’d rather have this chode than what’s happening now
1980-1988 : Ronald Reagan
1988-1992 : George Bush Sr (Bush Family 1)
1992-2000 : Bill Clinton
2000-2008 : George Bush Jr (Bush Family 2)
2008-2016 : Barrack Obama
2016-20?? : George Jeb Bush (Bush Family 3)
20??-20XX : Some other person
20XX-20yy : Barbara Bush JR (Bush Family 4)
This looks like a healthy way to run the country… but then again, I chose to move to Uruguay, where they’ve had at least 4 Batlles and 3 Herrerras.
The eldest son of the 30th president Luis Batlle Berres and a member of the Batlle family, he was the fourth member of the family to serve as president of the country.
The person literally just said they’d rather have Jeb than Trump, and you went into some bizarre alternate timeline… Like what the fuck are you even talking about
1980-1988 : Ronald Reagan
1988-1992 : George Bush Sr (Bush Family 1)
1992-2000 : Bill Clinton
2000-2008 : George Bush Jr (Bush Family 2)
2008-2016 : Barrack Obama
2016-20?? : George Jeb Bush (Bush Family 3)
Does this help you understand my point? Alternating presidents between a certain family and 2 others through that much time is ridiculous
How are you finding Uruguay? I’m not in any hurry to move since I’ve got a kid I don’t have sole custody of (so kinda stuck in Estonia), but I know at least one friend of mine is considering Uruguay.
Depends if they can get good work. A few years ago I would have said “hell yeah, if you’re on the left come on down”, but at the moment with the software industry in the shitter, I’m stuck in my current job which is putting a damper on my perspective.
As a country, it’s great. the political atmosphere goes between center right and mainstream left, we’re (hopefully) getting over the bump in the rise of hard right ideals when the center right party was supported by the small fascist party (read more about cabildo abierto) , there is a VERY strong protest and union culture here, and migration is a fairly standardised and easy process compared to other places. You don’t need to be a citizen or resident to get a job; the tax system is more than happy to take your money just with your passport.
I recommend he make some uruguayan friends online and come visit During summer (dec-feb). It’s not all sunshine and roses, especially in montevideo (there are homeless people in the city, and it does get called “Mugrevideo”, but part of that is that the public constantly expects better.)
Well, person in question is a software engineer and can work remotely, so I’m sure she’d find a way to keep her current job. Pretty sure our country has a taxation treaty with Uruguay. Matter of fact, same for me - I was already planning on moving to the canary islands to work remotely till I had a bit of a surprise pregnancy dumped on me. For me it was the weather, not social or political reasons though. The nights are -20C and colder for the last 2 weeks, which is actually preferable to the usual muddy winters we have lately, where it’s cold even if it’s not freezing, and also muddy and nasty and dark.
What kind of income do you need to have to actually live comfortably there?
Honestly how ineffective his campaign was and his ultimate failure kinda disproves the point you were trying to make about some political dynasty.
Still would have been better than Trump. Roe would still have been destroyed, but you know ICE wouldn’t be being used as an army to terrorize the country
Don’t get me wrong, those old guard fucks were corrupt as hell, but what we have now is orders of magnitude worse. Just blatant pillaging and terror in broad daylight.
This, this right here. They are stealing American workers and foreign money blatantly in the fucking open and depending on what happens will take decades to claw back if at all. ‘No taxation without representation’ my ass. US Americans have been and still are being taken for chumps.
Those long line of corrupt as hell old fucks paved way to “this”. Why do you think orange turd does the way things he does?
Because none of the old corrupt as hell fucks never got any consequences.
I can’t believe this has to be said every time you fuckwits praise old corrupt politicians. It kinda feels you deserve what’s happening.
Perfect is th enemy of good but what you’re doing is how much bad you are willing to accept. And they keep sliding towards a little worse, leading to the bottom.
And now you’re there you still haven’t learned a thing.
Bullshit and fuck you. Yeah this is a result of feeding the heritage foundation from the table for decades, but this is more the metaphorical result of the dam breaking and wiping out entire towns downstream.
You’re probably one of those “both sides” clowns who stymie any sort of progress because of an ideological stance which could never be achieved in the real world. I have indeed learned a lot over the years, which is that progress is messy and involves coalitions with those who differ, in service of goals. Insisting on throwing out the whole system is immature is overly idealistic. Thanks for making two people on the same side of the political spectrum get into a ln internet fight.
Just blatant pillaging and terror in broad daylight.
It’s imperialism gone inward. People in Iraq and Afghanistan still had it worse, in broad daylight. US citizens just feel bad about two white people dying.
The Heritage foundation hasn’t developed project 2025 for Trump specifically. Whoever else had been chosen to win would have done the same.
Fuck off. Are the people who say shit like this literally 12 years old? Do they really not know just how much different and worse this is than it’s ever been?
You’d have to be absolutely delusional to really believe that Jeb and Trump would even be remotely the same. Just look at their stances towards NATO, the EU, Greenland or Ukraine and Russia. America would still be a functioning country with Jeb in the White House instead of a circus with the Prime Diddler at the helm.
I can’t believe I’d rather have this chode than what’s happening now
1980-1988 : Ronald Reagan
1988-1992 : George Bush Sr (Bush Family 1)
1992-2000 : Bill Clinton
2000-2008 : George Bush Jr (Bush Family 2)
2008-2016 : Barrack Obama
2016-20?? :
GeorgeJeb Bush (Bush Family 3)20??-20XX : Some other person
20XX-20yy : Barbara Bush JR (Bush Family 4)
This looks like a healthy way to run the country… but then again, I chose to move to Uruguay, where they’ve had at least 4 Batlles and 3 Herrerras.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_Uruguay
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Batlle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Alberto_Lacalle / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Lacalle_Pou
The person literally just said they’d rather have Jeb than Trump, and you went into some bizarre alternate timeline… Like what the fuck are you even talking about
Does this help you understand my point? Alternating presidents between a certain family and 2 others through that much time is ridiculous
I would still choose nothing but bushes forever instead of trump.
Edit and I fucking hate the bushes
fair
Wow, great pattern recognition, I’m super impressed
thanks, being human helps.
How are you finding Uruguay? I’m not in any hurry to move since I’ve got a kid I don’t have sole custody of (so kinda stuck in Estonia), but I know at least one friend of mine is considering Uruguay.
Depends if they can get good work. A few years ago I would have said “hell yeah, if you’re on the left come on down”, but at the moment with the software industry in the shitter, I’m stuck in my current job which is putting a damper on my perspective.
As a country, it’s great. the political atmosphere goes between center right and mainstream left, we’re (hopefully) getting over the bump in the rise of hard right ideals when the center right party was supported by the small fascist party (read more about cabildo abierto) , there is a VERY strong protest and union culture here, and migration is a fairly standardised and easy process compared to other places. You don’t need to be a citizen or resident to get a job; the tax system is more than happy to take your money just with your passport.
I recommend he make some uruguayan friends online and come visit During summer (dec-feb). It’s not all sunshine and roses, especially in montevideo (there are homeless people in the city, and it does get called “Mugrevideo”, but part of that is that the public constantly expects better.)
Well, person in question is a software engineer and can work remotely, so I’m sure she’d find a way to keep her current job. Pretty sure our country has a taxation treaty with Uruguay. Matter of fact, same for me - I was already planning on moving to the canary islands to work remotely till I had a bit of a surprise pregnancy dumped on me. For me it was the weather, not social or political reasons though. The nights are -20C and colder for the last 2 weeks, which is actually preferable to the usual muddy winters we have lately, where it’s cold even if it’s not freezing, and also muddy and nasty and dark.
What kind of income do you need to have to actually live comfortably there?
Honestly how ineffective his campaign was and his ultimate failure kinda disproves the point you were trying to make about some political dynasty.
Still would have been better than Trump. Roe would still have been destroyed, but you know ICE wouldn’t be being used as an army to terrorize the country
In fairness, the population of Uruguay is about 1/100 as big as the USA, all else being equal there should be 1/100 as many families as well.
3.44 Million, that’s about 1/100th!
Dumb math slip on my part! Edited
Would’ve made a shitty president, but a better one than OhSyphillis.
Who is that? I hope/assume you mean Orange Turd
Jeb wouldn’t have been any different, he’d just be more professional about it. So we’d be professionally fucked than chaotically fucked.
Don’t get me wrong, those old guard fucks were corrupt as hell, but what we have now is orders of magnitude worse. Just blatant pillaging and terror in broad daylight.
This, this right here. They are stealing American workers and foreign money blatantly in the fucking open and depending on what happens will take decades to claw back if at all. ‘No taxation without representation’ my ass. US Americans have been and still are being taken for chumps.
Those long line of corrupt as hell old fucks paved way to “this”. Why do you think orange turd does the way things he does?
Because none of the old corrupt as hell fucks never got any consequences.
I can’t believe this has to be said every time you fuckwits praise old corrupt politicians. It kinda feels you deserve what’s happening.
Perfect is th enemy of good but what you’re doing is how much bad you are willing to accept. And they keep sliding towards a little worse, leading to the bottom.
And now you’re there you still haven’t learned a thing.
I see absolutely zero “praising” of any kind but great job making a strawman and then attacking it.
Bullshit and fuck you. Yeah this is a result of feeding the heritage foundation from the table for decades, but this is more the metaphorical result of the dam breaking and wiping out entire towns downstream.
You’re probably one of those “both sides” clowns who stymie any sort of progress because of an ideological stance which could never be achieved in the real world. I have indeed learned a lot over the years, which is that progress is messy and involves coalitions with those who differ, in service of goals. Insisting on throwing out the whole system is immature is overly idealistic. Thanks for making two people on the same side of the political spectrum get into a ln internet fight.
Naw this is fediverse. Only reality allowed is where the majority moving to South America to escape the US makes sense.
It’s imperialism gone inward. People in Iraq and Afghanistan still had it worse, in broad daylight. US citizens just feel bad about two white people dying.
The Heritage foundation hasn’t developed project 2025 for Trump specifically. Whoever else had been chosen to win would have done the same.
It may have more to do with “bullets for thee and not for me” than it has to do with skin color. Go off, though.
Fuck off. Are the people who say shit like this literally 12 years old? Do they really not know just how much different and worse this is than it’s ever been?
So was waterboarding and Guantanamo.
Yeah, and at that time it was
Those downvotes are not a good sign. People don’t realize how severe the introduction of torture and extrajudical detention was.
It’s totally normalized now. It is to be expected that ICE will be equally accepted.
You’d have to be absolutely delusional to really believe that Jeb and Trump would even be remotely the same. Just look at their stances towards NATO, the EU, Greenland or Ukraine and Russia. America would still be a functioning country with Jeb in the White House instead of a circus with the Prime Diddler at the helm.
Trump is no King. Everything that happens under him happens because GOP wills it.