I had to live with my dad until I was 24 and found the experience excruciating. Can’t imagine making it to 38
yeah, i had some friends who lived at home for a couple of years after college… all they did was complaint relentless about their parents. but they also just refused to move out because they didn’t want to pay rent or have roommates and would tell me I was a chump for paying rent and have roommates, and then I’d say how not living with your parents is the best. and they’d get so mad at me and not talk to me for a couple of weeks.
still, some people actually get along with their parents are are friendly with them and like being around them. blessed bastards, they are.
bout what Id expect out of a chan
May a person never become this incompetent. ☮️
go to work for wallyworld. aint much but better than nothing
What is this template?
There is a lot of valuable materials inside flock cameras that can be sold for profit.
Ooh deadass? I don’t think they have them in my city let alone country yet, but when they come, I’ll be ready
I moved out at 17, got married at 20, bought a house at 22. I also have been working since I was 12. After forty years of working, I still have nothing saved except some home equity.
38, never had a job, about to get one or starve. Sink or swim, parasite. You don’t need a plan, you just start hitting up all the grocery stores, fast food joints and temp agencies before your supply of ramen runs out. Temp agencies will send anyone with a pulse to stack product on pallets at whatever factories are local.
If his parents were going to do this they should have done it 20 years ago, or preferably got him some help for whatever is wrong with him that’s made him live like this. He’s fucked if he doesn’t have someone to room with. Entry level jobs aren’t going to cover housing let alone food and other essentials.
Yeah, these are all things his parents had a duty and obligation to teach him and they failed.
I’m seeing it more and more. Parenting is hard so people don’t even attempt it.
I’ll be honest bud, I’m 40 and have continuously held a job since I was 14. But given the choice between destitution and your plan, I’d choose destitution. The parasite in this society isn’t the fragile souls not capable of sustaining this abuse.
The 1960s called, they want their incredibly outdated job hunting advice back.
If we’re talking about grocery stores, fast food, and gas stations that absolutely still works lmao.
Pretty much all the minimum wage places still have walk in job applications. Often times they’ll just interview you on the spot.
That advice worked into the 1990’s, and even some in the 00’s (at least in my GenXer direct experience). But it ain’t working now, that’s for sure.
Eh it worked 10 years ago as well, but I’ve not been in retail/entry level jobs for about that long. Just walk in or visit the store website and fill out an application. Turnover is so high in these shitty entry level roles that they’re always looking for new blood
Heck a recruiter I talked to 8 years ago is still including me on mass texts about immediate openings at warehouses and factories for laborers with the most recent just a couple of days ago
Do these jobs suck? Yeah, but they’ll hire anyone with a pulse who can show up sober, and oftentimes sobriety is optional. It’ll get the person out of the house and earning some money which should help their mental state as well since staying inside 24/7 and having no structure to your life is a recipe for depression
Yes but have you tried introducing yourself to the manager with a firm handshake?
Y’all are doing it wrong, got to grab a bit lower to leave an impression.
This comment is so outdated I had to blow the dust off of it before I read it, like an ancient clay tablet
I hope anon doesn’t break his back carrying all those stones he carved his CV into. Good news is he can deliver his CV really quickly. Just chuck it at the window.
Some people have disabilities, they might not be visible. Truth is even they have needs and to say “sink or swim” reeks of cynicism and plain hatred for humans and closing one’s eyes to the human condition. You say that he should just go to work. As if people exist in a vacuum and can apply for jobs and get them. It’s clear that he has issues, guy has not been able to work. You can’t seriously believe that the system will want to employ him.
you push someone with mental disabilities (untreated adhd/ocd/anxiety/whatever) into low-wage labor and they just end up as contestants on /publicfreakout/ or tiktok, when they invariably get into a fight with the manager or customer or whatever.
then all the privileged yuppies on the internet can critique their behavior and the situation to determine who’s right and wrong.
that’s our culture. we’re already in some dystopian hellhole but most of it is so subtle and outside the lines of ‘normal thinking’ that people don’t notice it.
A lot of it is because people take reality for granted and to arrive at the whys is difficult because there exists a whole industry that legitimises the present state of things. Think of Fox news, or the Washington Post, or the Guardian – who would rather want more competent people in charge of an inherently antirationalist system than to fully overcome it. As more and more people are immiserated they will gain the knowledge of the absurd contradictions that have been considered normal and desire to supersede their masters. So in this culture there is a fragment of overcoming the metastability of infinite growth and so on.
Some industries will hire anyone with a pulse and they are often hungry for people (not right now, anon will be fucked, since the economy is fucked). Certainly there’s some disabilities that’d lock you out of those options, but not too many.
Plus being a shut in that lives at home and relies on your parents for literally everything is a recipe for severe mental illness.
The Internet isn’t real life, so when a person spends literally all of their time at home on the computer doing nothing of value they can easily find themselves with a very warped sense of reality that can only be broken by going outside, touching some grass and interacting with some real people.
There’s also quite a few life skills that can’t really be taught and have to be learned by working a job, living on your own and managing your own finances
not right now, anon will be fucked, since the economy is fucked
Yeah, but that is the reality. You can have your hypothetical grabby industries all you want, if they don’t exist and don’t provide what you claim they provide, which is a life, than you are talking about a fantasy. Plus the point about disabilities is not one where variety matters, how many disabilities there are, what matters is that people have those disabilities and the fact that very often people do have those disabilities.
I see nothing in the greentext image mentioning a disability. To me it reads as a lazy moocher that thought they could live as a parasite off their parents goodwill for their entire life and is getting a long overdue wakeup call.
I’m afraid you don’t understand what it means to be disabled. Disability is when people stop being able to function in daily life. As far as anon is concerned, this probably happened right when he got his HS diploma. Anon is exhibiting severe social dysfunction which is likely aggravated by C-PTSD, Autism, or a schizoform disorder.
Imagine telling a disabled person they don’t know what it means to be disabled. Now, to be fair, there’s no reason that you could have known that about me. However, that’s kind of the point: you’re making all sorts of unwarranted assumptions and then treating them as facts.
I mean you don’t. If anon were to go to the psychologist, the psychologist would tell him that he has significant mental issues. A disability if you will. That is a fact.
Why you preach this pulling yourself up the bootstraps mentality is beyond me. Completely antithetical to what the vast majority of disabled people need to hear.
Tamaki Saitō’s book Hikikomori is worth a read on this
this happened to me at only 19. I was homeless for 4 months after.
I’m in the same boat. Plus I was “unschooled” with neglectful mentally ill parents so my education REALLY suffered. Funnily enough I’ll be turning 38 soon… but I’ve been working hard for decades and have a career and family of my own now thankfully
It sucks at 19 and isn’t really fair because getting started is so much harder these days. Now imagine you were twice as old and had never tried to do anything with your life.
I regularly tell my parents that the reason I am not like so many Americans, is that I have a supportive family. I live with my parents, but I would likely be homeless if they weren’t here for me.
But like … You do work or go to school or at least try to do something besides just mooch, right? This guy never even tried, apparently for two decades after high school
The government has wasted at least 176 Billion dollars in Iran over the past three months, the leader of our society has siphoned at least 2 Billion in the past two years, data centers with near zero product are draining the water and electricity from communities all over the country while playing hot potato with hundred of billions more, and you’re calling your peer a mooch for feeling unable to participate.
I would like to think so? Even so, I do pay my parents 500 a month as rent.
Yeah, he would probably be homeless if he didn’t have an overly supportive family I think.
There’s a definite difference between renting below market rate from your family and being a 37 year old who’s never had a job, can’t drive etc.
Me at 22. Was homeless as well. I make decent money now almost twenty years later and I still look at prices and think back when I used to dumpster dive.
Back in the day, I used to eat pretty well out of dumpsters. Wasn’t really homeless, was living in an old caravan, but was proper broke.
These days, at least round here, they lock up the dumpsters, have security guards, or deliberately contaminate the food. Wankers.
Living out of a car or living on friend’s couches is considered homelessness. It’s why some people say unhoused instead.
The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all. Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit- and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains. And the smell of rot fills the country. Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.
There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificate- died of malnutrition- because the food must rot, must be forced to rot. The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.
- The Grapes of Wrath
I get that we’re in the age of AI and fuck the artist but cite your sources man
glad you’re doing good now. just as a little secret, I still dumpster dive to this day honestly… it’s how I got every piece of furniture in my house except my bed. gotta save where ya can lol.
Is no one here going to tell me why this is fake and gay? WTF do I come to the greentext community for? Just serious comments about people’s own experiences? Fucking shameful
Well it’s gay because OP has touched dick more than he’ll ever touch a woman.
Idk about fake though. It tracks pretty much with what I’ve known the average 4channer to be like.
Is no one here going to tell me why this is fake and gay?
Given the type of person who frequents 4chan, it is likely the most heteronormative and real-ass thing ever posted in green.
my own experience is fake and gay.
Very very gay
Poor guy, they failed him
Depending on where they live in the us and assuming it’s real, all he’ll need to do is get to a shelter. Make it clear that he needs help, then do the things asked. This all assumes he is mentally stable and physically well. there are programs but they do not hold your hand. They are not great, they are not the best as compared to other countries, but it is something. If he clean on drug tests and criminal there are many places that will take him. It won’t be pleasant.
If he has any documented physical health issues, then he needs to get a disability lawyer going.
As many pointed out, this world is grossly difficult and Unfair, but as long as one is kind, truthful, and continues to try, people will at least attempt to help, or at least tell you honestly they can’t.
I don’t want my tax money being used to shelter 4chan users 😤
Do you believe that having a roof over your head is a human right? I certainly do. Yes even the most detestable people in the world deserve a roof over their heads, with a place to sleep, and a functioning toilet and shower and some space to store their belongings.
This should be the bare minimum that all people are guaranteed by society but apparently that’s a very high bar
all he’ll need to do is get to a shelter
Famously very luxurious, accommodating, and safe places to live long term. There’s never a space shortage. You get three squares a day of very tasty and nutrious faire, no questions asked. There’s never any kind of Kafka-esque bureaucracy to gaining entrance, much less obligations on the people in the shelter to maintain residence. It’s definitely not boring. Nobody is ever exploited. Mental health of all the residents is top notch and you never experience and physical violence or emotional abuse while there.
It won’t be pleasant.
Understatement.
If he has any documented physical health issues, then he needs to get a disability lawyer going.
“I’m broke, I have no transportation, and I’m about to be homeless”
“Have you talked to your lawyer about it?”
I feel like you are being a cunt on purpose, most of those points where addressed in the comment. Ok the lawyer one needed clarification. Disability lawyers are a little easier (not easy, easier) to obtain while in a homeless and jobless state. Starting off pro bono and eventually getting paid from the state in one way or another, or thro charities/non profits is not uncommon for them.
Yes it was a understatment about shelter life. But you got so dum and smarmy about it. Its still better that the fucking street. (at least in an american east coast city). Yea your still gonna get robbed, but their is a much lower chance of getting stomped, lit on fire, or just fucking raped.
Horrible parenting tbh. And their son reminds them everyday how they failed as parents so they’re just kicking him out.
Yep, I think kicking your kids out when they turn 18 is fucked. But, it’s better to do it at 18 than 38.
I don’t know what the solution is, but it’s not this.
There should be a government program to handle situations like this if there aren’t. Take an assessment of their current skills and interests and get them into employment and/or training for something that fits. You basically need to intervene when the parents won’t and do it in a way that’s as least stressful for the person as possible. It would pay off in the end because otherwise this person may end up on government assistance later when they most need it. Politicians who can pull this off may get to claim to have reduced unemployment in their reelection campaign. And it’s just a good thing to do. Some people won’t take the initiative. You have to do it for them and hold their hand.
Edit: As far as I can tell, the closest thing to this in the US is the one-stop centers. Each state has their own.
Wait, you guys don’t have that? US I assume? Damn, does your government do anything?
There are plenty of programs to help you get a job. Though, if you are 38, living with your parents, and never got off your ass to support yourself, the problem is you. A program that helps you get a job can’t do shit for you if you are this unmotivated.
It kills brown people
They kill poor white people too on occasion so it balances out.
The conversion ratio is terrible. They need to start killing more white people for the good of the economy.
Oh, come on. It kills far more than just brown people.
I don’t think the federal government has a program like this, but I went through unemployment after getting laid off last year in Massachusetts and they had resources to help you find careers and training/qualifications and whatnot. Some of the dumbest, lowest empathy people you encounter bitch about Communist Taxachusetts non stop but we have it pretty good here compared to some other places in the Union.
The tax revenue per capita in Massachusetts is about $9000. (source)
I measure it this way because it gets around the comparison problem of some places having no income tax, but high sales tax toake up for it.
Anyway, we should happily pay $4000 per year difference to not live in Oklahoma.
The only thing our government actually does that’s uncontroversial is running a bunch of parks, and even those are understaffed
Governments are for Communists.
/s
The US used to have the Job Corps program…
There’s also temp agencies. They’re shit and the jobs they give you will be shit but they’re pretty good at finding something for basically anyone who isn’t completely unemployable. Someone whose only issues are a lack of transportation, housing, and work history would still be considered a good get by most temp agencies.
Japan is probably the closest by actually having the hikikomori problem in public discourse. Most of the rest of the world they probably end up homeless.
Japan is just ahead of the curve when it comes to problems related to arrested development. They’re not better at planning, they just experienced their tipping point earlier
Lots of people end up on welfare and in social housing under similar situations. We stigmatize those people so much that it never enters public discourse in the same way.
People who are unhoused tend to have even more severe difficulties resulting in that situation.
this already exists, it’s called temp agency employment. no, the government doesn’t run it.
baffles me how little real world experience a lot of you people have. at least every other day on here I see someone spectulate abotu this ‘great thing that should exist’ and it already does.
also a ton of bigger public libraries offer these types of services/classes for free. including basic computer job skills and such…
but you’d have to actually… look it up and leave your house to do any of this.
I wish my government had some social safety nets like some other countries do to help out people like this
HAVE YOU EVEN HEARD OF SHITTY PRIVATE BUSINESSES THAT SORT OF KIND OF DO THAT BUT NOT ACTUALLY? GO OUTSIDE YOU MORON!
Are you OK and if not would you like a hug?
because it works perfectly fine if you’re not a helpless moron, that’s why.
lots of people start their careers through temp job training programs and become permanent hires.
i’m not dumb and niave enough to be lemmy brained to think government programs are inherently flawness and wonderful and private/semi public programs are evil and terrible.
i have what they call ‘real life experience’ in these matters. instead of being a keyboard warrior who types in all caps and insults people as if this is in anyway helpful of knowledgeable about the world and how it works.
but hey man, it’s easy to dwell in ignorance and rage at the world than… make use of resources that are readily available to you to improve your life. including the countless free ones on the internet that are both public and private…
clearly the ‘answer’ to problems like this is to daydream about a socialist/communist utopia and be angry it doesn’t exist and also wish violence upon those who point out to you that it’s never going to exist.
Yeah you need a hug.
feelings aren’t actions man. you can sit around feeling your feelings all day, I’ll be taking action and taking charge of my life.
Private services are not the same.
Which government are you talking about there’s more than one you know.
the illuminati
but you’d have to actually… look it up and leave your house to do any of this.
That’s the problem. The sort of person we’re talking about isn’t going to do this. What’s needed is an army of people incessantly knocking on doors offering to help.
they aren’t going to open the door either man.
you can’t help people who don’t want to help themselves. homeless, drug addicts, dependapotamus situations etc.
though on lemmy people think a political revolution is going to like… magically fix people like this… but the only person who will is themselves.
