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    7 days ago

    It is too… clean? The lighting is too “perfect”. Each object is an idea rather than an image to be interpreted. It conforms to what instagram considers to be realistic.

    This is a mirror of human delusion averaged and contorted to gaze into itself, and as such I abhor it.

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      This video has a neat showcase of what’s going on here. So-called “AI” adds detail where there should be none, which makes the faces look like worn-out, but polished leather.

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        The examples they’ve shown are so static, I really want to see how the ‘invented details’ warp or phase in and out on fast motion scenes.

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      Apparently you need a second RTX 5090 dedicated just to slopification duty

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    And I am fascinated by the number of people who, after all those years, still have no idea how DLSS and neural networks work.

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    I knew that nvidia will at some point make graphics fully ai generated, skipping the rendering.

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      This is not the case… yet.

      Some companies already tried this multiple times in the last two years, the future of gaming is looking bright

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        I would try to interpolate your probably real question here, too. And I’m no AI. Unless I missed your point

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          Someone posted yesterday with a question asked to AI.

          What weighs more, 20 pounds of bricks or 20 feathers?

          The useless chat bot will always answer with “they both weigh 20 pounds” because that’s what the training data always says when asked about bricks and feathers.

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            That’s what I said. I expect it to interpolate silly questions to a sensible meaning. Of course it would sound like you wanna compare a comparable set of data. I would, as said, also assume you meant 20 pounds of both and just forgot to say that. Maybe adding “take this question literally” helps?

            No fan of AI here, but hate where hate is due 😁

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                Hm, i just had to try myself with chatgpt, and:

                so, as suspected, it just tries to ignore one’s nonsensical questions unless asked to take it verbatim. This is actually not even dumb. If it had said “your question makes no sense”, we would call it stupid to not see the obvious error in the question - as it’s a run-of-the-mill-“riddle”.

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                  I’ll have to find the post, but you did it in two steps, changed the units of mass, and object.

                  The post, which is extremely hard to find with the latest slop release from Nvidia, asked the chatbot to consider the exact wording, without babying it into the correct answer. All because the close variations of the phase “X pounds of bricks and X pounds of feathers weigh the exact same” have been used in various textbooks and such for at least the last hundred years or so.

                  That means that the chatbot has seen that exact combo of words, in roughly that order, quite a bit more than your use of “100 kilograms of rice”. At least in English.

                  You can baby it through when the training data is sparse, but not when there are hundreds of uses of the same phrase over and over again in the training.

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    No thx. I’m not too big on the last few generations of gaming anyway but if they’re really going to push their slop like this I’m out fully.

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    I want to see what this wold look like applied to a character editor but then I never want to see it again.

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    I actually love DLSS 4.5. no other method or gpu can do 1440p 500fps to run my oled monitor, but DLSS4. 5 can and it runs and plays amazing. I won’t go back to 144hz just to play native if i have a choice to do 500fps dlss.

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      I think you might be experiencing a bit of a placebo effect with a framerate of over 240. Pretty much anything after that has significantly diminished returns for the compute requirements.

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        I’m not. I have my 500hz oled as my main monitor next to a 280hz lcd. Big difference. 500fps gaming is crazy good.

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        At least for competitive games the better motion clarity of 240+ FPS is clearly noticeable.

        But then again its questionable whether generating those frames with DLSS has any kind of competitive advantage.

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          I feel like this is a case of “My $80 platinum plated monster 3.5mm audio cable gives so much better music quality.”

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            As I said it strongly depends on what you do with it. One of my main hobbies is aim training and there the difference is clearly noticeable. And there are many trustworthy voices in the aim training community that back this up. It’s also noteworthy that other factors of the monitor impact motion clarity more than just the refresh rate. For example an OLED panel has way better motion clarity than IPS panels.

            But in the end stuff like this obviously won’t give you superpowers. You have to train to actually get gud.

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            It’s not though, i have a 500hz oled next to my 280hz lcd screen. They are not even close.

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    You’re so clever. This post is a much bigger accomplishment than adding optional features to hardware. Bravo! Encore!

    Do GMOs next. Point out that cultivating traits in bio organics is simply “slop food.” That’ll make them think twice!

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      No way. Nvidia is currently the only gpu that do utilize 1440p 500hz oled monitors. Dlss4. 5 is a have charger for high refresh gaming.

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    Guess they didn’t realize games have an art style.

    Tampering with that by making all games look the same is destructive to the graphic art style.

    Booo It’s bad Boooooo

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      For realistic maybe but every style would need its own models and parameters to work well, seems like one thing more that will only fit for one flagship game and then realistically not used ever again

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      It’s like putting ketchup on a hamburger! If the chef wanted you to have ketchup, he would have put it on there himself. You’re spitting in his face by making changes to accommodate your personal preferences. One size fits all!

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        I think it’s a bit different.

        It’s more like changing a human made painting with AI to make the person look like modern IG “models”.

        I think it’s fine to add condiments to food. That’s not really the same as painting over real human art , with AI slop.

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            I’d say ketchup is like installing visual mods. The slop is more like a mistery goo wich makes it taste kinda off and 4 times more expensive.

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              Mods are also created by other humans.

              I do think that the appreciation of human created things is lost on some people. They really don’t get why it has more value. Or maybe they don’t value uniqueness.

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          Ah, using modern Photoshop to look like fake people, tale as old as time. It is kinda funny that in showing that ai is crap, you showed that humans are crap too.

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        That’s like saying “you shouldn’t mod games, 'cause that’s not what the dev intended”. Idgaf what the dev/chef intended, if I like mods in my burger, I’m gonna season it to my liking.

        You can dislike what this dlss5 is doing all you want to, but in the end, no one is forcing you to actually use it. Sure, some devs will start to rely on it, but those same devs never gave half a shit about what their burger tasted like in the first place. They’re the equivolent of a McDonalds burger. The devs who won’t rely on this, and who have a vision for their artstyle won’t be affected from this, in the same way that indie devs aren’t affected by the newest call of duty.

        The devs who give a shit aren’t gonna be forced to even make this available in their games. DLSS has always been a choice, if the chef doesn’t want me to put ketchup in their game, they shouldn’t offer it by putting the ketchup on the table in the first place.