• noobface@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    40 minutes ago

    You will never hear me say gibibytes in public though. Telling on my nerdy ass self is for private conversations.

  • bstix@feddit.dk
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    2 hours ago

    Has anyone ever used the last byte on any hard disc in a successful manner?

    I mean not by just putting a too large file there, but something that actually utilized that final byte and having the machine still run flawlessly?

      • bstix@feddit.dk
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        55 minutes ago

        I already did it on floppies.

        I also attempted to program the entire AD&D rules as an Amiga Basic program. It ran well for a start, but then I noticed that the random generator always returned the same dice rolls. Turned out that the RAM was used up, so it couldn’t store the random value anywhere. The program was fine otherwise. Just out of ram.

        Anyway, I miss the ingenuity of having too little space, more than I am impressed with the possibilities of having too much.

        People simply did more with less. I want that to return. The bloat is obscene, and hopefully AI is going to break the balloon of it. Nobody really needs several gigabytes of code to run a 2 line program.

    • Kyden Fumofly@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      3 hours ago

      Technically you dont lose anything. Its like you buy a car with top speed in Kmh, but you see Mph when you drive.

      • Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        2 hours ago

        Yeah I know it’s technically the correct use of terabyte vs tebibyte but it still feels bad when your 12TB drive is only 10.9TiB

        • Kyden Fumofly@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          30 minutes ago

          Well it is too bad the Windows sucks. If only they had the money to make a proper OS that gives you the option to switch from binary to decimal like in Linux.

  • bacon_pdp@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    40
    ·
    7 hours ago

    The OS uses 1024 and the drive manufacturers are using 1000.

    Which is why a 1TB drive shows 931GiB of capacity. (1024 GiB =1 TiB, 1024MiB =1 GiB, 1024KiB =1MiB, 1024 Bytes =1KiB) but the drive manufacturers using SI prefixes doing 1000 Bytes =1 KB, 1000 KB = 1MB, 1000MB = 1GB, 1000GB = 1TB.

    Thus the discrepancy.

    • Ephera@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      3 hours ago

      Yeah:

      1000 GB × 1000 × 1000 × 1000 / 1024 / 1024 / 1024 = 931.32 GiB

      It’s a sufficient explanation. I don’t know why the meme has the highest IQ person say “I don’t know”, unless the joke is that it’s easier than explaining…

    • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      3 hours ago

      At the beginning of time, K/M/G etc was based on 1024. This was considered a bad move by some people.

      What I don’t get is memory packages don’t come in thousands, but in volumes dividable by 1024, so why the 1TB=1000 somethings…

    • heartSagan5@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      4 hours ago

      And it gets more complicated when we get to the metadata and filesystem structure. So, you technically never get to store 931GB, I wonder what the (average) ratio of metadata to data is? 3:1?

    • Ooops@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      3 hours ago

      Plus some programs showing space actually usable for your data (not unreasonable from user perspective), which means another chunk is gone as overhead from the file system.

  • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    39
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    8 hours ago

    Bootlickers will then argue it’s cool that the manufacturer screws you out of almost a hundred gigs.

    • kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      31
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      6 hours ago

      The manufacturer is labeling the drive correctly as 1TB (1000GB, 10^(12)B). It’s Microsoft that incorrectly labels it as 931GB; it’s actually 931GiB (931 * 2^(30)B). A Mac will correctly show 1000GB and a Linux machine will correctly show 931GiB.

        • kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          2 hours ago

          “Bootlickers will blame a multi-trillion-dollar company”

          Do you know what that word means?

          • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            2 hours ago

            If any company could get away with labelling their product to have 1/10th less and get away with it, they would. Usually consumer rights organisations fight to make it so that you get what is advertised.

            The producers are using semantics to give less. I, as a customer want what I have been promised by the label.

            If you’re interested in arguing the opposite, you’re anti-customer, and pro-ripoff.

        • kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          2 hours ago

          I’ve seen GB sometimes on Linux, but they’re actual GB, not mislabeled GiB, so I don’t have a problem with it.

  • liinux@pawb.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    7 hours ago

    I really love how this really applied to basically everything, the more you know about Linux for example – the most you are happy that something worked instead of asking HOW it works

    I’m talking to you, RAM memory!

    • driftwood@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      5 hours ago

      FML you’re telling me I need Random Access Memory Memory now? 😩 Never getting a new pc.

    • milbyte@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      6 hours ago

      is there something wrong with RAM on windows? iirc this was one of the things that worked normally for me.