For me, the problem with “Rocinante” is I don’t know how to pronounce it. So, while reading, I’d skip past it, recognizing that it’s the horse, but not parsing it as a word.
If asked that question, I’d need to explain that, but I’d stumble over the word.
If a book has too many oddly (to me) spelled names, I’ll skip it for this reason. Apostrophes in the middle and no vowels, and I’m not going to read your book.
The weird ‘th’ handling of ‘c’ isn’t just a Catalan thing? Is that all of Spain? I know I’m biased as a North American, but preference for Mexican Spanish.
I have no idea about ‘c’ becoming ‘th’. I was referring to the ‘t’ at the end that the above comment made ‘the’ when breaking it down, which they have mentioned in a reply was an auto-correct error.
The Spanish I know is not generally NA influenced.
Hm… Ro as in Ross…? The rest is the correct pronunciation, yes.
Maybe, I don’t know… an as in anvil and te as in tenant…? English, being several unrelated languages in a trenchcoat, can be a bit weird, and pronunciation varies excessively with dialects…
The vowels in Castilian (aka Spanish outside of Spain and other Castilian speaking countries) are very simple, five vowels, five sounds, pronounced more or less as they would have been in Latin.
C is pronounced like a k or a hard z, never as an s (except in some dialects).
Rocinante. From rocín and antes, for he was a rocín (old horse) before being Quijote’s steed (also during, but the old man wasn’t all there).
For me, the problem with “Rocinante” is I don’t know how to pronounce it.
If you’re using a European language, you’re pronouncing it correctly, or close enough.
If your only contact with English is the written word, I guess it depends on what languages you’re familiar with. If you’re using AI / translation software, just ask it to read it to you. Maybe it’ll get it right. Or not. Who can tell with those things.
Spanish is incredibly easy to pronounce though? There are only a couple things different than English and none of those differences are relevant for Rocinante. It’s also consistent in pronunciation, unlike English.
For me, the problem with “Rocinante” is I don’t know how to pronounce it. So, while reading, I’d skip past it, recognizing that it’s the horse, but not parsing it as a word.
If asked that question, I’d need to explain that, but I’d stumble over the word.
If a book has too many oddly (to me) spelled names, I’ll skip it for this reason. Apostrophes in the middle and no vowels, and I’m not going to read your book.
Ro Cin An Te
Roh sin ahn the
Rocinante
Why would you make it a ‘th’ at the end??
Autocorrect is a motherfucker
The weird ‘th’ handling of ‘c’ isn’t just a Catalan thing? Is that all of Spain? I know I’m biased as a North American, but preference for Mexican Spanish.
that is why the Barthelona thing is so pedantic. In Catalan is pronounced more like “barsalona”
The th pronunciation is Spanish.
In Catalan c before e or i is pronounced like a hard s.
Oh, thanks for the clarification!
I have no idea about ‘c’ becoming ‘th’. I was referring to the ‘t’ at the end that the above comment made ‘the’ when breaking it down, which they have mentioned in a reply was an auto-correct error.
The Spanish I know is not generally NA influenced.
Ah, I guess they had fixed the autocorrect by the time I saw it.
Apparently it is most, but not quite all, of of Spain that does the ‘th’ business… Which makes me wonder if the horse’s name should use the ‘th’ sound: https://youtube.com/shorts/dxBoVaOuw4Q?is=uFdY_uC6q6AjdcDF
It’s the Spaniard pronunciation. Virtually everyone else would pronounce it as “see”.
Barthelona.
it’s not hard, they are just american.
I mean, me too…
Thin, not sin.
Ro as in rod. Thin as in, well, thin. An as in ant. Te as in tent.
Latin American Spanish might disagree so both sin and thin pass. Book came out before the languages split after all.
So you are saying it’s
raa - thin - an - teh??That’s wild… I’m convinced you are not pronouncing ‘ant’ or ‘tent’ “correctly” for those to be your suggestions…
They’re right, afaik. An as in land, te as in test.
Hm… Ro as in Ross…? The rest is the correct pronunciation, yes.
Maybe, I don’t know… an as in anvil and te as in tenant…? English, being several unrelated languages in a trenchcoat, can be a bit weird, and pronunciation varies excessively with dialects…
The vowels in Castilian (aka Spanish outside of Spain and other Castilian speaking countries) are very simple, five vowels, five sounds, pronounced more or less as they would have been in Latin.
C is pronounced like a k or a hard z, never as an s (except in some dialects).
Rocinante. From rocín and antes, for he was a rocín (old horse) before being Quijote’s steed (also during, but the old man wasn’t all there).
If you’re using a European language, you’re pronouncing it correctly, or close enough.
If your only contact with English is the written word, I guess it depends on what languages you’re familiar with. If you’re using AI / translation software, just ask it to read it to you. Maybe it’ll get it right. Or not. Who can tell with those things.
Spanish is incredibly easy to pronounce though? There are only a couple things different than English and none of those differences are relevant for Rocinante. It’s also consistent in pronunciation, unlike English.
what’s it like being a stubborn dumbass?