• Zephyr@sh.itjust.works
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    There’s been a 73% decline in global vertebrate populations since 1970. We’re in the beginning of a very serious mass extinction and it’s kinda like we don’t care which is interesting.

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        Yup, second organism to cause a mass extinction but the first to self proclaim it’s intelligent.

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            I’m still pretty solid on the idea we’re in an ancestor simulation or at minimum definitely not in base reality.

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              Whatever helps get you through it. Functionally it makes no difference. The simulation runs particles smaller than atoms and the maximum speed is still light. Our universe is too vast for us to explore and there’s probably other life forms on planets too far away to matter. Our experience is insignificant in the grand scheme of things, yet the only thing we will ever do. Make it count while you’re here.

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                I mean the probability isn’t in our favor. As for us, yeah it doesn’t change much. Same for a lot of epistemological arguments. Last Thursdayism, Descartes demon, Plato’s cave, Chung Tzu’s butterfly, solipsism, Boltzmann brains could all be bang on right on the money. I see you’re taking the more so physical reality approach, even then if something like the holographic universe or some variation is correct then maybe distance doesn’t exist like we think it does. If for instance we’re in a black hole then there’s a one to one representation of all information here in what we consider 3D space on the black hole’s surface.

                All the fun ideas aside I agree with you although maybe our definitions of fun may be different. That is I think the first goal is to reduce needless and avoidable suffering for all minds anywhere in existence whenever possible. Like even if it is a simulation of sorts or reality just started ten seconds ago or what I’m experiencing is a Boltzmann brain it still doesn’t stop the first goal from at least being the best goal I’ve found so far.

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        Not saying you’re wrong but I don’t see the point in letting the population collapse. It will just bounce back later and probably be far greater assuming humans don’t go extinct before achieving sufficient space travel and colonies. That is also assuming we’re the only ones here and this isn’t like a controlled demolition of the human species by some other entity or force.

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            I haven’t even ruled out last Thursdayism. Reality is strange, even in the most mundane interpretation.

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          no no you don’t understand, the billionaires want more money, the number simply must go up. and maybe they would care about the world if any of their workers would inform them of the consequences of each of their actions, but none that do stick around so the number keeps going up, fuck the consequences

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            Possible but they’re holding summits trying to figure out how to maintain control in their bunkers when money no longer has value. I think they’re pretty aware of the situation at hand.

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              yeah but you just said it, they feel safe with their bunkers, the rest of the world be damned

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                Safe until there’s a revolt and they become the bunker bitch or in a worse case tomorrow’s dinner. You see the issue? Can’t control people with money if money no longer has value.

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                  of course, though i bet they’re working under the assumption that their defences are enough, or that they will be the last remaining humans out there. basically, hubris

                  greed and hubris are a powerful combo, unfortunately

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      Sociopathic billionaires with all of the power to do something about it absolutely don’t care if the world ends. They only care if they were on top before the game ended.

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        I’m not absolutely sure if. That’s true, seems to be more so a function of their age. Like if i’m 92 and the world ends then not so bad, but if I’m like 38 and the world ends then that’s sad.

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          You’re very right. We’re dealing with mostly rich old people who never cared about others while they were young and certainly don’t now that they’re about to die.

          People like elon musk will be around for a good while longer and I think people need to not underestimate just how mentally ill these people are. They’re not capable of caring about other people as much as themselve like normal people are. This is a key feature of sociopathic narcissism, and people like that are well equipped to traverse our economic system more successfully than anyone else because they have no morals or empathy holding them back. After enough decades of capitalism, the only ones on top are people like this and then it devolves into neo-feudalism.

          If any billionaire regardless of age cared about humanity, they would use their massive power and influence to help humanity and they simply choose not to.

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    You know what would help this situation?

    AI

    Lots and lots of AI.

    Also more religion.

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    Climate change deniers: “I’ll be dead by 2050, why do I care?” or “Fuck you, I got mine already.”

    Reality: FAFO.

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    We’re sitting in our rooms agitated, causing life long issue with sleepless nights, all while these fuckers that did this for greed sake are building climate controlled bunkers.

    Fuck rich removed

    see you next Tuesday is sencered? What else can we call them…

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      I’ve said it before, we need to announce the revolution so all these idiots go into their bunkers, and then brick them up or something.

      The concept of hiding out bunker is idiotic, if the world is truly dying then what are you going to do in a bunker? Sit there for the rest of your life, and then what, have your descendants emerge a century later to devastated world, what’s the point? The sort of people who hide out in end of the world shelters are not the sort of people who want to get their hands dirty rebuilding civilisation.

      Far apart from anything else it’s going to be incredibly boring if you’re used to the jet setting lifestyle.

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        They probably think the “cattle” will tire themselves out with revolution after a decade or so, and then they can reemerge to retake the reins of society.

        It doesn’t make the most sense but these people have more money than sense, almost definitionally.

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          “cattle” is neither capable of starting a revolution, not is it capable of sticking with it for more than half a year.

          Tested and true in most first world countries

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      I keep wanting to make “we are flocked” signs with arrows pointing at the cameras, but I don’t know if I should worry about putting them up.

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    Faster than expected, and worse than anticipated. It will get much faster and much worse. Practice growing your own food and stay in shape.

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      That’s the hit.
      Drink lots of water and try to di most of your errants and activity by night or early morning when temperatures are at the coolest.

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    The fictional one has something along the lines of “as usual” while in reality it’s exceptional (for now). Though europe is especially affected by climate change, due to some meteorological phenomenas. And it’s concerning that we get a few more over-30°C days each year.

    Edit: language. hard.

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    Do you reckon the USA actions in the last 2 years have contributed to the speed up?

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      As someone who doesn’t know much of anything about this topic could you elaborate on what actions the US has taken? I am genuinely curious.

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        Removal of subsidies for EVs, launching rockets for space garbage every 5 seconds, and bombing everything. I’m sure hitting the gas/fuel plant with missiles was especially great for greenhouse gases.

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          I think overall destroying gas/fuel plants will lower the amount of fuel entering the atmosphere overall. Sure the stockpiles will go up right then and there but that was going to happen anyway, and shutting production down for a few months will be a net benefit to the atmosphere (assuming they don’t turn to a worse source of fuel, which they might.) The space industry also is still small enough that it accounts for a surprisingly small portion of emissions.

          The EV issues and increasingly larger and larger vehicles I think account for a much greater portion of emissions.

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    Most people are sheep. They just follow the stream and eat what big tech serves. As long as the entertainment in the arena (tiktok etc) is good enough, nothing else matters. No need to think, no time to reflect. With AI you don’t really have to think at all. (feels like this is true, but hope it is not)