I wrote a program in Basic on my Commodore 64 at 6.
I didn’t know how to save my work. I typed and manually proofread code for three hours. It worked. The program was lost when I powered it down.
Our Commodore VIC20 came with a big book/manual which mostly taught you how to code. Was an awesome time.
Yeah the “OS” was essentially a basic interpreter and simple editor. I remember that book.
God damnit.
I remember toting around a Linux textbook in 7th grade, because I had just started messing with it.
Same year I got my General and Advanced ham radio licenses.
Does this make me autistic?
7th grade in the US is about 12 years old.
no, it makes you an insufferable nerd though. especially if you went around telling everyone about how cool it was.
Counter argument: boomers who needed to type commands and swap disks to get a word processor loaded, who knew all the hotkeys required to issue commands and the alt-codes for special characters, who today cannot figure out where the file they were working on saved to.
those aren’t the same boomers.
mac people/kids are wealthier, so yeah they’d have better academic scores, generally.
Linux people are the insufferable know it all who just inject themselves into things to brag about how superior and smart they are for an arbitrary operating system choice.
the computing equivalent of that football dad who brags to everyone how good has in high school and how he could have gone pro.
I think there is some selection bias there with your analysis of Linux people. Maybe you only know the ones that interject because they have interject. Meanwhile a lot of Linux veterans don’t bring it up because we don’t want to answer questions about it.
it’s a joke about lemmy users dude. and how insufferable they are about linux and all the twats in this thread bragging about how they learned linux in grade school like it’s a contest to prove how hardcore and smarter they are. and their lack of recognition of how obnoxious and weird that behavior is.
They are like people who argue that German cars are not expensive if you can do all the repairs yourself! It demonstrates a total lack of understanding that non-enthusiasts don’t care about your weird smug nerd shit about how you love to suffer by taking hours to setup your custom homebrew network.
Normal people just want shit that works. They don’t care about Linux, or when you learned it and Mac vs windows is mostly about the aesthetics and branding, not about the functionality of the OS or it’s technical features. They are just browsing social media and watching netflix for 95% of their time on it anyway.
Did Linus Torvalds sleep with your wife or something
no. i just think linux is boring and dumb, rather than the holy spirit of using computers.
using linux is not really some great achievement in life, all it means is you’re a nerd who likes command line interfaces. cool, me too bro. I just don’t whinge on about it like windows/mac or sunOS is were some great evil prophets and his holy Linus gave us salvation from our computing sins the other OSes make us commit, or something.
people here think treat linux use as a religious awakening and they must shun/covert the non-believers. or argue about the purity of their faith based on the distribution or the age of their first install. shit’s wild.
I agree that there’s a lot of overexaggeration in the Linux sphere about how great it is (along with the snobs that come with it), but it’s not entirely without merit either. Linux has a big emphasis on user choice and configuration, and it’s pretty much the only OS in the world which can run on basically any machine that has the specs for it.
It tends to go relatively underappreciated how big of an impact Linux has had and continues to do so in how diverse & ubiquitous it is, so it’s not too surprising that insecure users tend to compensate by dunking on Windows/Mac and its users whenever they get the chance. That’s not to say it doesn’t have its shortcomings (it certainly does) but Linux is one of the few software creations that managed to maintain the majority of its principles over its lifespan without enshittifying itself. So there’s also that moral factor which makes many feel justified in glorifying it.
Overall I’d say it’s balanced between being overrated and the rise of RNGesus. It’s a great ecosystem to take part in (albeit with an occasional degree of confusion) and as long as you treat the Linux supremacist crowd as unserious (which they are when it comes down to it) there’s really no reason to dislike it in general. Especially if you want to stick it to Microslop or Slopple :)
You are what I’m complaining about dude.
I’m an IT professional. I don’t glorify or condemn anything on principle. They are just tools for jobs. Linux is no more glorious that a hammer. But you seem to think that hammer is the second coming of the son of God. Normal people use hammers to hit nails, they don’t sit around and glorify and worship hammers as being superior to screw drivers.
So I’m not entitled to my opinion? It’s a little disingenuous to act like I’m worshipping Linux when I literally just denounced that behaviour.
I know it’s a crazy thought, but people are allowed to appreciate creations on an emotional level. I’m not shaming you either way whether you like it or not, I’m just laying out some reasons for why people treat Linux the way they do. People are allowed to like their tools and the work put into making them, and so the same thing goes for any software.
It seems to me like you’re just having a hard time understanding that people tend to feel sentimental about their interests, which is what, y’know… Humans do. Your principles aren’t universal imperatives. You’re entitled to them, but you’re treating them as objectively as any Linux snob treats their favourite distro.
Funnily enough you’re also not entirely consistent with your holier-than-thou attitude towards any biases. This whole back and forth started with you calling Linux boring and dumb, facetious or not.
you are entitled to your opinion. it can also be stupid, wrong, and make you a total douche for having it. racists are entitled to be hateful on people based on skin color. doesn’t mean their opinions aren’t shitty and nasty and wrong.
you did not denounce it, you exemplified it. ‘linux is superior and microsoft and apple are dumb, hehe’ you are just being like ‘acktually, i’m not like those other linux nerds, my opinions is justified!’ no, you are exactly like them, you just think your opinion makes you special and different, when it’s exactly the same as theirs.
it’s fine. you’re a normal person. Most people think their cliche and stereotypical opinions are original and genius and not like the other, because they are theirs. every sports fan thinks they are the REAL fan too.
it’s not holier than though, it’s indifference and annoyance to you and people liek you thinking you are so smart and special and different, when you are nothing more than a cliche. You are the equivalent of a lifted-truck dude, just with computers. You think you are so cool and awesome and unique, everyone around you thinks you are a insecure insufferable douchebag, and wonders what happened in your life to make you so insecure you have to posture so much.
