• Gloomy@mander.xyz
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    4 days ago

    The word you are looking for is Murderer, obviously 😉

    But honestly, cutting out animal products helps animals, so thanks for that. Should it be all animal products? I’d say yes and live accordingly, but i can accept that other people arrive at other points.

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      4 days ago

      The word you are looking for is Murderer, obviously

      And yes, I know. I try to only eat suicidal animals, because I’m a good human!

      My initial goal with switching more and more things to vegan was to reduce my ecological footprint.

      For the animal products I still consume, I try to buy the fairest and highest quality available. If I’m responsible for their end, the life they had should at least be somewhat pleasant. But I guess they would prefer not to be eaten at all.

      • howrar@lemmy.ca
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        2 days ago

        no, it doesn’t.

        this is stated without any supporting evidence, and can be dismissed without any evidence.

              • Gloomy@mander.xyz
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                2 days ago

                I have friends that have saved several wild dogs and cats while on holiday, because of the compassion they developed for animals since becoming Vegans.

                So your totalitarian claim is wrong right away.

                If you look at Europe, eating less meat seems to impact the industry.

                According to preliminary data from the Agricultural Market Information Company (AMI), the trend reversed for the first time last year. Average per capita meat consumption across the EU in 2024 was 66 kg, 2 kg higher than the previous year.

                There are significant differences in consumption between individual countries: Per capita meat consumption is highest in Cyprus (88 kg), Ireland (87 kg), Portugal (85 kg), and Spain (85 kg). At 53 kg per capita, Germany is well below the EU average and is among the countries with the lowest meat consumption. In the long term, the AMI does not expect a further increase in per capita meat consumption in the EU due to changing eating habits.

                The AGI is hardly an activist organisation, so i’d wager that they are not biased here.

                Since eating habits in many countries that are slowly closing the gap to western countries are changing from vegetarian to more meat, the global data is obscured a lot.

                But the logic of vegetarians and vegans not buying meat and an ever rising number of plant based alternatives consumed even by people, who are only looking for a reduction in meat consumption, seems clear to me.

                • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  2 days ago

                  none of this changes the fact that more meat is produced every year.

                  just eating beans doesn’t help animals. you need to go to where the animals are and help them

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        4 days ago

        I don’t know your options, but my work uses milk lab for speciality milks and the oat milk is good in my opinion. Well, good in coffee. I don’t know how that translates to other uses.

        • SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social
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          4 days ago

          I’m in Germany and the options are, well, not limited, but the quality varies a lot. Currently I’m testing a band from Lidl, because I was too late to drop into Aldi yesterday.