• InFerNo@lemmy.ml
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        3 days ago

        Damn, that whole thread is a train wreck. The likes and dislikes show a clear divide. I also can’t believe so many people hate LGPL so much, calling it a cancer.

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          4 days ago

          I mean, that’s not my music, but I can still recognize the empire she built on the skills that she possesses. She seems to be a fine person as well, where anyone vibe coding something and claiming it as their IP is a joke.

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            I can still recognize the empire she built on the skills that she possesses

            Counterpoint: those skills have MUCH more to do with marketing than creative talent or proficiency.

            She seems to be a fine person as well,

            Nah, she’s a billionaire. You can’t become and REMAIN that ludicrously wealthy and still be a good person.

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              3 days ago

              Either way, she did it. I think she’s far better at business than singing.

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            4 days ago

            Being good at music shouldn’t make you a billionaire.

            United States: $49 – $499

            Europe (UK, France, Germany): €69 – €499

            Southeast Asia (Singapore, Philippines): SGD $108 – $388

            Australia: AUD $79 – $379

            That’s the ticket. Before taxes (at least in the US), and before Ticketmaster and friends bent you over. But wait, there’s more!

            You can buy VIP packages. Because having money makes you very important.

            It’s Been A Long Time $199 VIP merch, early entry

            Karma Is My Boyfriend $399 Premium seats, VIP lanyard, photo booth access

            You Belong With Me $699 Exclusive merch + lower level seating

            All Too Well $899 Front floor seats + signed item (limited)

            The Lover Experience $1,200 VIP entrance + collectible signed photo

            And all of that is if you even manage to buy a ticket, because scalpers are ripping you off as well.

            Nosebleeds $200 – $450

            Mid-level seating $500 – $1,200

            Floor seats (front) $1,500 – $5,000+

            VIP Pit Areas $3,000 – $15,000

            The empire she’s built was paid by dads taking their daughter to a concert and young people who love her. She’s robbing them and telling them “it’s because of the fireworks” or whatever bullshit.

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              3 days ago

              That’s how everyone makes money. They produce a good or service and get paid accordingly.

              I go to a decent number of concerts and unfortunately have to deal with Ticketmaster and live Nation. Between the Monopoly and scalpers, it is a joke how ticket prices are.

              Selling VIP tickets for extra meet and greet access, or whatever is just another product. Almost every large performer I’ve gone to see had had some kind of vip offering. Nobody has to buy these things, but if you really like it and can afford it, you do.

              The artist does not make extra money off of inflated scalped tickets. It’s dumb that it happens, but Swift was one of the few people that did push back against Ticketmaster for allowing the practice.

              Yes, she built an empire off of her fandom, that’s how that works.

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                3 days ago

                Artists used to do that because they loved music, and I bet there are still some left. I work for money and I get paid, but that doesn’t mean I make everything a transaction.

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                That’s how everyone makes money. They produce a good or service and get paid accordingly.

                That is quite a load-bearing use of “accordingly”. You’re allowed your opinions, but don’t make it seem the relationship between work and money is straightforward and neutral. You’re allowed to believe that a streetsweeper or farmer should make less money than Taylor Swift but that is very much not an obvious thing that everyone agrees on.

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                  Accordingly was maybe not the best word, but she provides a service people will pay for.

                  I think teachers should make more, but they don’t generate revenue to pay them more. I think the government should step up and use taxes or some other funds to raise that floor. It’s the same with pro athletes. They generate billions and make millions. Should they not get a good chunk of the money that they themselves generated?

                  There are lots of jobs that maybe ethically or morally should be paid higher than entertainers based on the value added, but as you mentioned is not just straightforward. My argument is Swift has made a lot because she has earned it with her work. Whatever her motive are, whether the live for music or money is irrelevant. She makes something people will pay for, and they do.