• Die Mart Die@sh.itjust.works
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    7 months ago

    Would be nice to name drop these kinds of assholes.

    I would love for them to not find a single worker to fill this position and people gradually leaving until it’s just a husk with the C-suite having to do everything or the company just disappearing

    • Sarmyth@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      I honestly just assume its fake when they dont name drop. I have no doubt it happens, but its just rage bait without any context.

      • [deleted]@piefed.world
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        7 months ago

        Based on a true story

        Don’t doubt that each of those things were used by various companies to not hire people, but listing them all at once in a rejection letter that no companies send anymore is a bit too on the nose.

      • Die Mart Die@sh.itjust.works
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        7 months ago

        It may be, but key words are “it happens”.

        This is anecdotal, but when I got my very first job interview at a somewhat big local company back when I was 19, the interviewer was apparently very eager to hire me, until I mentioned the salary topic, then her face changed from excited to like “rude, we’re not hiring this guy” almost immediately.

        I would name drop them if I remembered the company name.

        They ghosted me tho

    • ronl2k@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      I would love for them to not find a single worker to fill this position

      They’ll just ask the government for more immigrant visas since no Americans will work for them. Sort of like US farm labor operates today.

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    7 months ago

    Why protect the identity of the ones saying this? Could save some people wasted time applying, or even worse, someone might even get hired by them.

  • PhAzE@lemmy.ca
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    7 months ago

    Be greatfull you didnt get that position because if they say asking about responsibilities (aka the role) is a no-no, then they’re scamming.

  • clav64@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Task failed successfully. Any company willing to get defensive in writing clearly has some horrific practices.

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        7 months ago

        I personally think a horrible employer is worse than homelessness. I actually spent less time hungry what time I didn’t have a place and always had the shelter at night before getting back on my feet.

        Shitty job; I woke up nauseous every morning. Always had this sort of dread. A general depression from the abuse and general humiliation of the workplace. We really know how to grind the average white collar to ash and dump them in the garbage when they get older.

  • ch00f@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    I had a company back in 2012 refuse to present even a range of compensation before they flew me 1200 miles to an interview except to say that it “wasn’t bad.”

    I didn’t take the interview.

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      7 months ago

      It’d just discourage companies from sending rejection letters or giving reasons.

      Better to flame the situation than the company in this case.

      • douglasg14b@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        Ah yes the: “Accountability is bad because then those held accountable will try and hide their actions” argument.

        It’s not an ideal position to hold as it’s one that’s subservient to abuse and malicious intent

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    7 months ago

    As a manager I’ll give you their thought process and from a mangers perspective it makes sense (albeit still wrong) and you DEFINITELY wouldn’t say it to the applicant.

    Managers want robots that do their job and don’t call them out on their bullshit or question the decisions they make or their salary. That way they don’t have to give raises or address issues. When you ask questions on the interview that lead them to believe you are educated and stand up for yourself they don’t want to introduce you into their work bubble of other robots or it would start a rebellion. Hope this helps.

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      Sounds like you had some shitty managers. That’s about as dumb as saying that all people interviewing are lazy people with no work ethics and just want to do nothing and get paid.

      Based on this screenshot the candidate dodged a bullet because this particular manager/company sounds terrible.

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        7 months ago

        It really depends on the type of job. If you are doing a cog-in-the-machine job like anything in retail, gastronomy or customer support, it’s exactly like Pacattack57 described.

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          I’m a retail manager and I’ve experienced shitty bosses in previous jobs too, and I don’t want my team to feel like a cog in a machine. I make sure my staff can come to me with anything and I’ll be transparent with them, because nobody deserves that kind of treatment if you’re trying to put in work for someone/somewhere. Turns out if your team are happy and trust you, they can even more productive! Who knew, right? 😅

          If a candidate didn’t ask any questions at all in an interview, that’s more of a red flag to me because it can show they’re not even interested.

  • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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    7 months ago

    That’s fucking bullshit. 20 years ago, those were just basic things to ask when they say “Do you have any questions for us?” And applicants were actively encouraged to do so by jobs coaches.

    If they don’t want people to negotiate their contracts, they should say “Requirements: willing to be exploited and blindly obedient; push-overs preferred.”

    • 5too@lemmy.world
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      It’s common practice now. I’ve been interviewing for over 4 months, and ask these kinds of questions every time (except for the salary). Over a dozen interviews, and not once has there been even a hint of relucrance to respond.

      Op dodged a crap company

      • Almacca@aussie.zone
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        7 months ago

        You shouldn’t have to ask about the salary because that should have been in the job advertisement. Why would anyone even apply for a job if they don’t know what it pays?