Yup those are both mental health conditions and treatment is available. You can live a good, normal life with the right management techniques and work
Sadly narcissistic and sociopathic issues don’t always get treated as people see them as character flaws instead of illnesses. Also hard for those affected to get help.
yeah “this person is unlikely to voluntarily get treated, better confine my actions to the protection of myself and others” is not a big ol’ ableism despite what people might sad eyes pressure you into thinking, zero guilt
Yes, but good luck getting someone with either of those issues, let alone BOTH, to receive therapy or even take it seriously if they do. Last time I suggested it to my mother, she told me I was dead to her and we haven’t spoken since. This was in roughly 2016 or so and my life has only improved since
The fact that the process of becoming president sends like it is purposely designed to weed out non-narcissists is sad. We luck out every now and again, but it attracts some of the worst, as we have seen.
Reddit mentions a pretty famous story of a neurophysiologist (or someone like that) with his own family, who figured out he was psychopathic while doing research on brain differences in psychopathic people. He concluded that his upbringing stopped him from being aggressive and violent, like psychopaths often tend to be.
Yeah, people with mental health conditions can get mental health care to have better mental health. As an American I understand this concept can be confusing to my fellow countrymen, but it’s true.
Not of the own volition, and in a vacuum you’re absolutely correct. But as someone who has had the pleasure of a family riddled with mental health issues; I can say, as some what of an authority, annyone with any issues can&will go to therapy with the right mixture of motivation and pressures.
I’ve briefly dated two people with sociopathic narcissistic tendencies, and both of them were in therapy.
From what I could tell though, it didn’t seem like the work either of them were doing in therapy was focused on either their sociopathic or narcissistic tendencies.
Sooo, I’m extra impressed by this mom’s apparent willingness to actually try to do the work, lol
The narcissists I’ve known have openly admitted they were such, and talked at times like they are working on improving themselves, but they were either lying or couldn’t help themselves. They are the worst, run, while you can. The last thing you want is to knock up a narcissist and be forever in her/or his, orbit.
Yeah, I’m a lesbian, so luckily the chances of either knocking up or being knocked up are hella low, but agreed.
I’ve run into more than my fair share while dating, to the extent that it makes me not even want to try to find a partner, because weeding out the people with improperly managed mental health struggles feels like an impossible task.
Also save the kids, from the fate of having a narcissist as a parent. My late friend had a narcissist (diagnosed as such) parent, who was a damn psychologist. The stories, I was told, were horrid. And in the end my friend killed themselves, after battling with depression for a decade. I blame the parents on large part.
A sociopathic narcissist in therapy… Like what?
Yup those are both mental health conditions and treatment is available. You can live a good, normal life with the right management techniques and work
Sadly narcissistic and sociopathic issues don’t always get treated as people see them as character flaws instead of illnesses. Also hard for those affected to get help.
It’s there though! Glad they’re recieving it
So you can make life happier for people involved (great!) but you can’t treat the problem in itself, right?
I think the surprise is more around someone with those conditions agreeing to go to therapy, not that therapy is available.
This.
yeah “this person is unlikely to voluntarily get treated, better confine my actions to the protection of myself and others” is not a big ol’ ableism despite what people might sad eyes pressure you into thinking, zero guilt
Narcissists trying to play the ableism card piss me off to no end.
Why tho? If she sees that these thingies making her life worse, she will accept therapy. Pretty logical for narcissist and sociopath.
You don’t have a lot of personal experience with narcissist sociopaths.
Those two conditions not equal to being stupid to not recognize patterns
Yes, but good luck getting someone with either of those issues, let alone BOTH, to receive therapy or even take it seriously if they do. Last time I suggested it to my mother, she told me I was dead to her and we haven’t spoken since. This was in roughly 2016 or so and my life has only improved since
Or worse, people see these traits as good reasons to be President of the United States.
The fact that the process of becoming president sends like it is purposely designed to weed out non-narcissists is sad. We luck out every now and again, but it attracts some of the worst, as we have seen.
It’s their recovery rate for me, it’s abysmal
last time I checked sociopathy is not a real diagnosis
Antisocial Personality Disorder covers sociopathic tendencies, behaviors and is an official diagnosis
Reddit mentions a pretty famous story of a neurophysiologist (or someone like that) with his own family, who figured out he was psychopathic while doing research on brain differences in psychopathic people. He concluded that his upbringing stopped him from being aggressive and violent, like psychopaths often tend to be.
An article about him.
This ad in the article cracked me up…
Lol ^^
That was actually a really cool story, thanks
Yeah, people with mental health conditions can get mental health care to have better mental health. As an American I understand this concept can be confusing to my fellow countrymen, but it’s true.
That’s not what I meant…
What exactly did you mean then? I honestly and genuinely I can’t figure it out.
Those 2 conditions don’t really go to therapy.
Not of the own volition, and in a vacuum you’re absolutely correct. But as someone who has had the pleasure of a family riddled with mental health issues; I can say, as some what of an authority, annyone with any issues can&will go to therapy with the right mixture of motivation and pressures.
I’ve briefly dated two people with sociopathic narcissistic tendencies, and both of them were in therapy.
From what I could tell though, it didn’t seem like the work either of them were doing in therapy was focused on either their sociopathic or narcissistic tendencies.
Sooo, I’m extra impressed by this mom’s apparent willingness to actually try to do the work, lol
The narcissists I’ve known have openly admitted they were such, and talked at times like they are working on improving themselves, but they were either lying or couldn’t help themselves. They are the worst, run, while you can. The last thing you want is to knock up a narcissist and be forever in her/or his, orbit.
Yeah, I’m a lesbian, so luckily the chances of either knocking up or being knocked up are hella low, but agreed.
I’ve run into more than my fair share while dating, to the extent that it makes me not even want to try to find a partner, because weeding out the people with improperly managed mental health struggles feels like an impossible task.
Also save the kids, from the fate of having a narcissist as a parent. My late friend had a narcissist (diagnosed as such) parent, who was a damn psychologist. The stories, I was told, were horrid. And in the end my friend killed themselves, after battling with depression for a decade. I blame the parents on large part.
Preciate the enby defense, ty 😎
“The Rapy Gory Gary”. That is definitely quite the user name.
Creative joke!
It’s how you get free cheese.
Maybe court-ordered?
Court Ordered Sargento is my new band name tyvm