• bigmamoth@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    in my country every citizen is required by law to have paper that allow identification. Glad to learn im not in a free country. For thoses curious it s an european country.

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      9 days ago

      Do you require those papers walking down the sidewalk? Do children need those papers when running around outside doing kid things?

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          “this is directly tied to immigration”

          I don’t see why that makes things better, just shows that the source of the lost freedom is bigotry and hate.

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            just to make the point it isnt extraordinry to have thoses laws. Immigration control is tied to a lot of issue, that the direct benificiary are the citizen.

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                that wasnt my point. these law are the consequence of immigration because it wasnt control in the first place. i never had to decline identity in place where immigration where inexistent, but i had to in place where it was high.

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                  That wasn’t the point you were trying to make, but it was the point you made.

                  Because of anti-immigration bigotry, you now have to prepare to prove your right to walk down the street. And because of anti-immigration bigotry, you’re ok with that.

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                    i live in a country where every week somebody is aggressed, rape or murder by somebody that have the obligation to leave the country. I would totally prefer that it wasnt the case and if it was true i wouldnt be ok with that. We arent abble to control immigration because of the European Union, so we get measures like those. Uncontrolled immigration has negative consequence.

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          I’m sorry. That’s very sad.

          As a kid I ran freely around the neighborhood and my family never had to worry that I had taken my identification with me. Never had to worry that it might fall out of my pocket.

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            same, until i got to a city where drug traffic was high and i got controll a lot where before it never happened to me

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              I’m sorry your kids have to fear police now. Maybe you should speak up to your government to change things rather than just lick the boot.

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                tbh i fear drug traffic a lot more than police. Nasty shit happened bc of it. Police werent always nice but they never mistreat me and while i dont like being subject to those control it s not like i fear them

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                  But the bigots have taught you to fear the immigrants even more, I guess. Because “papers please” does nothing to solve the drug problem.

                  I hope you escape this bigotry, and learn to be a better person.

                  Then demand your government make the police treat you like a person

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                    Wel, the migrant are literally unable to integrate society considering they come from country where you can legaly kill a maried women if she was raped. I dont want them in my society. It s not the biggot that have taught le to fear migrants, its migrant. If i had the oportunity i will 100% deport them all. Like i dont like to have to accompagne every female relative to train stattion cause we live in a fucked up country and even for a 500m walk you dont know what could happen. Just yesterday somone that was litteraly already condamned to leave the country after being judge for crime raped a 90 year old lady. I dont want to make society with theses individual.