Came to say this! Drug addicts need help, not jail. Sure, if they commit a crime police should be involved, but it’s not going to cure their addiction!
Idk. I’m a public bus driver, am in pretty consistent contact with drug users. Not to mention living in amongst them in the poorer areas of tow. I’m not saying we should arrest them and give them lengthy sentences, but just leaving them on the street ain’t working out.
I think a mandatory “time out” in a facility is in order. At least long enough to work the drugs out of their system. Maybe then they can try for a better way with a little clearer head.
But some days it feels like I’m living in a post apocalypse mad Max type place. It’s bullshit that they’re allowed to just trash anyplace they are. There’s what’s best for them, and there’s what’s best for the rest of us. There’s gotta be something done.
I mean if you want to get specific what I really want is to remind police that doing drugs is illegal and they should focus on busting those people…instead of kids having fun on scooters
Findings: MCDA modelling showed that heroin, crack cocaine, and metamfetamine were the most harmful drugs to individuals (part scores 34, 37, and 32, respectively), whereas alcohol, heroin, and crack cocaine were the most harmful to others (46, 21, and 17, respectively). Overall, alcohol was the most harmful drug (overall harm score 72), with heroin (55) and crack cocaine (54) in second and third places.
riding scooter at 12 seems to be illegal too in vancouver, and people have fun on drugs too, so seems to me both things are pretty much interchangeable in your argument
Busting drug addicts will do ZERO to help the drug and crime problems. Even law enforcers will tell you that.
Those problems are so much more complex, and require fundamental reforms in social policies, mental healthcare, education, youth programmes, city planning etc. And then there’s the issue of dealing with the gangs, smugglers and foreign organized syndicates bringing the stuff into the country.
Kids driving recklessly on scooters (which are often modified) are:
A) A danger to themselves
B) A danger to pedestrians they could crash into
C) A serious danger to cars that swerve to avoid them when they go out on the main road.
Putting someone in timeout maybe works for three year olds but it doesn’t work for adults even if you hold them there 1000 times longer. Restitution and rehabilitation is a significantly more effective solution and results in much lower recidivism. Only reason to lock someone in a box is if they present a significant danger to the public, and that’s not to punish them, but to protect others.
It’s almost like drug addicts are still people who deserve to be treated like people. Throwing them in jail and subjecting them to police brutality does not help anyone except the fake numbers game of the police. If you really want to help people with addictions you have to be willing to work with them and treat the problems at the source rather than resort to punitive measures for no reasons.
Trying to combat drug addiction through policing has been proven ineffective time and time again. You may want to rethink that one.
Came to say this! Drug addicts need help, not jail. Sure, if they commit a crime police should be involved, but it’s not going to cure their addiction!
Idk. I’m a public bus driver, am in pretty consistent contact with drug users. Not to mention living in amongst them in the poorer areas of tow. I’m not saying we should arrest them and give them lengthy sentences, but just leaving them on the street ain’t working out.
I think a mandatory “time out” in a facility is in order. At least long enough to work the drugs out of their system. Maybe then they can try for a better way with a little clearer head.
But some days it feels like I’m living in a post apocalypse mad Max type place. It’s bullshit that they’re allowed to just trash anyplace they are. There’s what’s best for them, and there’s what’s best for the rest of us. There’s gotta be something done.
Doing drugs is a crime tho.
This guy reminds teachers they forgot to give out homework…
I mean if you want to get specific what I really want is to remind police that doing drugs is illegal and they should focus on busting those people…instead of kids having fun on scooters
Why is doing drugs illegal?
In the US it’s so they can give black people felonies for being black so they can’t vote.
That’s literally what started the war on drugs. Well, blacks and hippies.
This is also why alcohol, which is a way more harmful drug to others than all of the illegal drugs[1], is legal.
[1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21036393/
Because they won’t share with me :(
Because of the law
It seems you’re stuck on Step 4 in Kohlberg’s Stages of Moral Development:
Do you mind me asking how old you are?
edit: never mind it says it in the meme you created.
“Drugs are illegal because drugs are illegal”
Kids having fun on scooters doing illegal things.
One is a felony the other a misdemeanor
Fun fact: Vancouver is in Canada, and in Canada there’s no such thing as a felony or a misdemeanor.
This guy lawyers
riding scooter at 12 seems to be illegal too in vancouver, and people have fun on drugs too, so seems to me both things are pretty much interchangeable in your argument
Busting drug addicts will do ZERO to help the drug and crime problems. Even law enforcers will tell you that.
Those problems are so much more complex, and require fundamental reforms in social policies, mental healthcare, education, youth programmes, city planning etc. And then there’s the issue of dealing with the gangs, smugglers and foreign organized syndicates bringing the stuff into the country.
Kids driving recklessly on scooters (which are often modified) are:
A) A danger to themselves
B) A danger to pedestrians they could crash into
C) A serious danger to cars that swerve to avoid them when they go out on the main road.
Being this stupid should be illegal.
So was giving shelter to undesirables in Nazi Germany. Laws are not inherently moral.
So is what the kids are doing. So…?
Putting someone in timeout maybe works for three year olds but it doesn’t work for adults even if you hold them there 1000 times longer. Restitution and rehabilitation is a significantly more effective solution and results in much lower recidivism. Only reason to lock someone in a box is if they present a significant danger to the public, and that’s not to punish them, but to protect others.
No is not
The temporary decriminalization of doing drugs in British Columbia expired in January 2026
So doing illicit drugs like crack or fentanyl on the streets is currently illegal again.
Again i said NO IS NOT
Also the cops handing out traffic tickets, and the cops doing narcotics investigations are different people.
This isn’t new either. A song was written about it 25 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4L20t8Dvlg
love me some oldschool SOAD songs
I read it as they are both bad things the police enjoys, but seeing OPs comments I don’t think that was the intent.
If you arrest the users they’ll give up the dealers
That’s policing 101
FTFY
Treat it like the public health issue it is, not something to involve the judicial/carceral systems
You’re stupid
I want you to know that, but I want you to feel it, where it really counts
You’re a shitty person because of your stupidity
You could just be stupid, but you’re that awful combination of stupid and shitty
Arresting drug addicts in the war on drugs is part of how the US ended up with 25% of the world’s prison population. End result? Same amount of drugs.
Criminalizing drug use does literally nothing except lead to the death of democracy.
Your percentage is off.
Recent sources put US prison population at ~2 million, with about that much under other supervision conditions.
US population is at ~342.75 million people.
Good call, got some wires crossed. The US contributes to 25% of the entire global prison population
And is ineffective. Didn’t you watch The Wire?
No I watched breaking bad
They went after the one drug user (badger) and eventually it led all the way up to the Heisenberg guy
dumbest comments I’ve seen all day are all from you
I’ve had this user tagged as “anti-science troll” for ages.
Last time was from just a comment chain under a post but it was just as bad as this whole thing.
I was just thinking the same thing.
The farther down this thread I go the dumber they get
I’m just amazed how many people are on the side of the drug addicts
It’s almost like drug addicts are still people who deserve to be treated like people. Throwing them in jail and subjecting them to police brutality does not help anyone except the fake numbers game of the police. If you really want to help people with addictions you have to be willing to work with them and treat the problems at the source rather than resort to punitive measures for no reasons.
I’m amazed there is still people that think prohibition works.
addicts need help not prison
Do you not remember his name?
Say my name
Mr. White?
SCIENCE! YEAH!
Ya Heisenberg
That widely known to not work that way.
No no no. This is just building a prison pipeline.
Ok bootlicker
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