• Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    I get the spirit of this post but imo the bigger factors are third places, leisure time and the death of the community.

    Phones are just the better than nothing option.

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      Well atleast the economy for which we sacrificed all this is running smoothly.

      starts crying and disassociating

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    The real puzzler is how people can spend hours reading their screens and still be bad at reading

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        I sat at an intersection the other day for two minutes in my school bus. I glanced down into the car next to me and saw a kid sitting there watching a video of a woman trying to lift up a stick with big bunches of bananas on each end and failing at it. Video was like 5 seconds long and just kept looping. The kid wasn’t even laughing, just seemed to be in a coma. I’m sure there are dumber tiktoks out there but I can’t imagine what they would be.

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    Will someone please give me a step-by-step guide on how to make new friends under 60 and have consistent daily “human experiences” outside of a city center?

    I’d love to give up my phone and possibly TV… if it everyone else does too so there are other humans to interact with. Society is in a depressing cath-22 of loneliness.

    Though it can’t be impossible. Group hobbies, sports, etc exist. Just gotta pick one and go to meet ups. But phone is so much easier 🤤

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      I’m 35 and the social circle I had from grade school died off slowly and then fully after covid.

      Hobbies! Whatever hobby done eith others or can be done with others. Then just show up constantly. If you aren’t social poison in human form, people start talking with you.

      I do:

      Kickbox

      Hiking, but only summer months I hate snow.

      Dancing classes and I’m a man. This is a good way to get dates lowkey.

      Tabletop board games. I don’t go to a store. I live in a small city ~30k I just found a group of like minded nerds on a locals D*scord group and go to their house. Yep. People really do that.

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        My main hobby is bicycling, which is a great way to meet people. Unfortunately, I really hate bicycling with other people, not to mention the fact that enormous gaggles of cyclists gabbing away and not looking ahead are an absolute menace on bike trails, so I never take advantage of the social aspect.

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      Yeah, my best luck has been with signing up for some kind of weekly thing with a group of strangers.

      Kinda doesn’t even matter what it is, but the more closely it aligns with your interests and values, the better time you’ll have.

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      I’m 25 so my experience is a little easier since people my age are looking for friends more actively, but I still think I can provide some advice. I have a huge friend group that I’m very proud of and put a lot of work into developing.

      1. You have to meet potential friends in the first place. Bars, clubs, bookstores, community events, volunteering, neighbors, etc. Ask about people’s interests and hobbies and see if any line up. Maybe you both like horror movies or a certain video game or something like that.
      2. You have to be active about it. Invite people to things, and put effort into it. What you do is up to you, but some universal things are dinner, board games, movies, etc. Don’t get too nervous about if it will be “boring” or “cool”. The way I think of it, is would I rather have a boring time with my friends or be on my phone by myself? I chose boring time with friends every time.
      3. Don’t be afraid to give up on making a certain friend. If someone isn’t being responsive or doesn’t seem interested in hanging out, that’s totally fine. Just move on. Don’t dwell on it. When I first moved to the city I live in, I tried making something like 15 or so friends and only about 3 of them actually went through with plans, and now we’re all besties. That means only 20%. Like I said, you have to put in effort.
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      A lot of people suck though, and it makes sense to avoid those ones.

      In the olden days, churches used to be the focal centerpoint of many local cultures, especially in rural areas. “3rd spaces” during our cultural transitions and all of that. (implication: you might need to literally move to find what you seek, or at least travel to a city

      Or in the USA it will not be a problem anymore - people will all be forced to work so hard that having time to socialize outside of work or family will not be a concern. #firstworldproblems

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      I have a vague memory of reading an article years ago (can’t find it now) about how pre-industeializarion, the average number of people an individual interacted with and knew wa much smaller.

      We used to live in small villages. Houses would contain extended families. You’d probably know your neighbors pretty well. You’d know the people you went to church with. It was not uncommon for someone to be born in a village and live their until their death without ever leaving that village.

      Whenever I hear people talk about how humans NEED social connection I’m reminded of that. My college graduating class was perhaps more people than several generations of my ancestors interacted with. There’s a strong argument that we have hyper-optinizsd socialization today. Constantly connected to dozens of people we know and millions that we don’t. Stimulation, novelty, and distraction enough to last more lifetimes than I can imagine.

      Perhaps in this modern age, the person most difficult to engage with and the most important, is the self.

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        I’d be willing to bet those people that never left their village would have had many deep connections within the village and would interact with at least a few people on a daily basis. We may tend to know many more people these days, but the connections tend to be shallow and/or infrequent.

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      There are many guides but this is my guide

      Step 1: buy the GMs guide for a ttrpg

      Step 2: write a fun premise for a campaign

      Step 3: do a little light planning

      Step 4: post that you’re lfg

      Step 5: play the campaign

      Step 6: forget you’re supposed to be playing a ttrpg because you just hang out with your new friends all the time

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        But what if you don’t want to GM?

        I keep checking meetup for open games but they’re always full. And I live in a decent sized city.

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      Hey, in a blatant attempt at sabotage, have you heard of TV Tropes?

      I’m not gonna link it because I don’t actually want to sabotage you and you probably already know it. However, it is a lot of fun.

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      Which is precisely why there are 100 pages open. I get to the end of a lot of them, but when I realize my brain’s too tired to keep up, I have to stop in the middle of a page.

      Then the next night I pick up again, but sometimes with a different page because there’s just too much interesting stuff out there and sometimes I don’t intend to end up on Wikipedia, but a search leads me there and I fall into another rabbit hole. So then I have two pages open, not counting any I may leave open because, “Ooh, that’s interesting, I want to share that fact with my friend. But it’s midnight and I don’t want to wake them.” And… well, sometimes I remember and send the info, but sometime the page stays open until I do a clean-through of my tabs…

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    I especially love it when people ask me directions to some random place, while they have Google maps open on their phone… Like, why? How hard is it to follow ‘go left, go right’.??

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      Sometimes the calibration is off and you’re unsure which direction you’re supposed to go but this happened to me.

      A french lady with some company came up to me and asked for directions to a cinema, so I pointed out the way which was straight ahead for two blocks and then one left, exactly the same route the Google maps she showed me had. And in the correct direction she was facing.

      Like… just follow it man

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        In my experience Google maps is frequently wrong about the last 20 meters or so.

        So you’re wandering around the block looking for the entrance

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        When the calibration is off, either calibrate it. It takes 2 seconds. Or just walk 5m and see where it goes. Or just read the map as, you know, a map.

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        It’s always something that Google is right about. Maybe not to the exact meter. Most of the time I help them by whipping out Google maps myself

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          No, no it isn’t always right about maps. It might be because we’re in Seattle or AI has been taking over more than it should, but it’s been wrong a lot lately.

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            It was in my anecdotal experience, which is what I meant. But yes Google maps really has taken a nose dive lately.