Torx is king, but I would happily use only Phillips if we as humans got rid of slotted screws/screwdrivers. Every single time I’m forced to use one it annoys me. You can minimize it slipping out by using the right size, but who the hell wants to use or carry more than one of these? And it still doesn’t eliminate the problems, whether you use it for high or low torque applications…
The only good thing about slot screws is that you can use any reasonable flat thing as an emergency screwdriver. And the screwdrivers can serve as a general purpose prying tool I guess. They suck at their official job.
Yes please. As an American I’ve become the annoying girl who often gives measurements in metric (tbh I mostly fit along with the Canadians on units) and I’ve grown to strongly prefer robertson screws.
How many damn times does it have to be said that philips is perfectly fine for low-torque applications, such as furniture you need to assemble yourself, as the screw will slip before the materials get damaged from too much torque. It truly is the most good enough option for ~90% of consumer grade products.
The problem is that manufacturers keep using Phillips screws for high-torque applications.
Just this week I nearly stripped a drill bit installing some curtains and the manufacturer had supplied some Phillips wood screws. I had to keep my entire bodyweight behind it to stop it from camming out. Phillips wood screws shouldn’t even exist. They won’t even stay on when you put them at the end of your drill. I ended up throwing them away and used my own Robertson screws which went in like a charm.
All of this based on the assumption that people would overtorque fasteners if you didn’t use Phillips screws, completely ignoring the fact that this isn’t a notable problem for the many manufacturers who use Torx or Allen screws.
Anything Philips can do, Torq can do better. There is already a simple method to prevent furniture damage or any other rare instance where you want the screw head to slip : use the correct sized screw and dont over torque it.
Most US students learn both but there is no centralized education so literally nothing is or can be adopted. The only standards you will follow are the discipline specific standards set by a collaborative council of large industry corporations who simultaneously approve or deny a course of accredited status of college credits.
Can they also adopt the metric system like everyone else while they’re at it too?
And also dump Phillips screw heads. They’re godawful.
Torx is king, but I would happily use only Phillips if we as humans got rid of slotted screws/screwdrivers. Every single time I’m forced to use one it annoys me. You can minimize it slipping out by using the right size, but who the hell wants to use or carry more than one of these? And it still doesn’t eliminate the problems, whether you use it for high or low torque applications…
The only good thing about slot screws is that you can use any reasonable flat thing as an emergency screwdriver. And the screwdrivers can serve as a general purpose prying tool I guess. They suck at their official job.
I am constantly camming out cheap Phillips head screws and it drives me crazy
Yes please. As an American I’ve become the annoying girl who often gives measurements in metric (tbh I mostly fit along with the Canadians on units) and I’ve grown to strongly prefer robertson screws.
Roberson was also a Canadian, so you’re fitting along well in uh… your screw preferences too!
How many damn times does it have to be said that philips is perfectly fine for low-torque applications, such as furniture you need to assemble yourself, as the screw will slip before the materials get damaged from too much torque. It truly is the most good enough option for ~90% of consumer grade products.
The problem is that manufacturers keep using Phillips screws for high-torque applications.
Just this week I nearly stripped a drill bit installing some curtains and the manufacturer had supplied some Phillips wood screws. I had to keep my entire bodyweight behind it to stop it from camming out. Phillips wood screws shouldn’t even exist. They won’t even stay on when you put them at the end of your drill. I ended up throwing them away and used my own Robertson screws which went in like a charm.
All of this based on the assumption that people would overtorque fasteners if you didn’t use Phillips screws, completely ignoring the fact that this isn’t a notable problem for the many manufacturers who use Torx or Allen screws.
Did you predrill a pilot hole?
Anything Philips can do, Torq can do better. There is already a simple method to prevent furniture damage or any other rare instance where you want the screw head to slip : use the correct sized screw and dont over torque it.
Most US students learn both but there is no centralized education so literally nothing is or can be adopted. The only standards you will follow are the discipline specific standards set by a collaborative council of large industry corporations who simultaneously approve or deny a course of accredited status of college credits.
the metric system is superior for baking.
I dont know whats wrong with a phillips head, but imma keep my driver thanks.