Useless gesture when we have no medical supplies, meds, or just fucking AC inside our hospitals in cities where we have temps over 100°F/40 °C every day
Seriously, these are empty laws. “Universal healthcare” without any public health budget.
I can tell you what we get here: very cheap private primary care.
Public primary care is so awful and precarious, average MD doesn’t want to work there, average Mexican citizens (like me) doesn’t get there for cold or a minor health issue.
Many drugstore chains (even Mexican Walmart) employ MDs and offer cheap (~USD$5) consultation service and offer very cheap drugs (generic formulas).
For a common throat infection is nuts to wait days for a “free” health care, with almost no drugs stocks, and wait more than a week for a precarious lab work, when you can go to any drugstore MD (~USD$5) any day, get a cheap lab work any day (non profits private medical laboratory and chains, <USD$15 for a bacterial profile), a get all the treatment (antibiotic and painkillers) by less than USD$20 (even less with discounts).
Is cheap even for our economic standards.
Medical specialists are expensive, but way cheaper than USA. You can access a cardiologist, neurologist, urologist for around USD$40 to USD$75 the visit.
You can die here before a public hospital appointment for a specialist (months to a year backlogs)
Why so cheap? Private insurance here is a (very expensive) joke. Cost too much for 95% of the citizens. People pay directly for services, some even tolerate public health services. Market adapts with cheap services for common health issues.
If you got a rare cancer or illness and not in the private insurance umbrella, you are almost dead. You can read about our infamous survival cancer rate on public health institutions.
I am a low income Mexican citizen with some chronic health issues, I pay for my healthcare and meds.
si señor ya me cayo disculpe usted por querer hablar de mi experiencia siendo mexicano
soy un pobre indio tonto que no conozco mi lugar y deberia estar agradecido de poder compartir este lugar con gente como usted
edit: well it’s clear to me this is an english speaking space, but I don’t know why I expected something else from a mostly liberal space where people outside of my country will try to shut me and tell me I’m wrong while they live in a country rich thanks to colonialism
hope you enjoy your ‘uplifting news’, hope they make you happy and you will never have to step into an IMSS clinic in your privileged life
Browsers have translate functions these days. Reply in whatever language you like …. Or at least a supported one. I see what you said and assume it was meant sarcastically
it’s the irony for me, trying to shut me off for talking about the situation in my own country while I’m doing to effort to communicate in their language
No no no, the firefighters SAID they are connecting their hoses but in reality there are no hoses, they spent that money for the hoses on something else and people have to put out the fire by themselves
There is a difference between putting something in paper and actually putting policy in action
Dang, I guess they shouldn’t have made this law then, huh? What a waste of time trying to create the legislative framework to improve things when obviously its futile to try to improve things. We should just accept that things are currently bad, and that they’ll never get better, right?
man what a waste of bits for this comment, yeah I guess, next time we will put a law to end world hunger?
but go off, it’s not like we have an issue where healthcare quality is declining in Mexico while the government is spending money on projects like Tren Maya, AIFA or more fossil fuels…
I’m amazed by you people, you will complain (rightfully) that trump has wasted a lot of money on his shitty war and his shitty ballroom while their people are suffering but when a self proclaimed ‘leftist’ gov does the same shit you will believe whatever they say at face value and ignore what the actual citizens have to say about it
Genuine question, is the article posted painting the wrong picture as well? Its conclusions for example:
It’s unlikely to fully deliver on its universal promise by 2028 unless funding, staffing, and state-level coordination improve sharply. But even so, the most likely outcome is meaningful improvement in access and coordination, especially in emergencies and underserved areas. It likely won’t be a seamless or fully equal national health service in the near term, but if things go according to plan, there will be improvement.
Still, without sustained increases in public health spending, universal access could become a bottleneck rather than a breakthrough. Mexico also has to improve its labor retention, and lastly, ensure digital execution.
If it works though, it could be a remarkable achievement. It’s a pivot away from the US-style employment-tethered chaos and toward a unified, digital-first “National Health Service” like in Canada, the UK, or Europe (but with more biometric tech).
To me it seems like it raises concerns similar to the ones I’ve seen here, but still has a kind-of-hopeful outlook. Am I missing something?
you can’t see how it is useless? I’m telling you it is useless because there is no real access to quality healthcare and giving you examples on how dismissive you all are about this issue just because on paper we are moving to the right direction
cool I guess I moved the goalpost by giving you more context on my country
Seems like a step in the right direction to better serve the people, as opposed to trumping being many steps in the wrong direction for personal enrichment to the detriment of the people.
You see how some americans still support trump because the only media they consume will feed them lies about how he wants the country to prosper but he keeps getting sabotaged or something?
Well it’s the same shit here, while our government will say all this, they are getting richer with illegal oil bypassing out taxes and giving huge contracts to their family and friends
(oh yeah and we are not even touching the topic of all the foreign projects approved by our gov that will destroy a lot of our natural reservations)
I can see how you are ignorant of our current situation in México
me sorprende la autoridad con la que vienen a hablar los extranjeros de nuestra situación. entiendo que en lemmy muchos somos de izquierda pero si realmente creen que el gobierno actual de México ve por los intereses del proletariado pues están bien pendejos y probablemente lo sean si son gringos
Useless gesture when we have no medical supplies, meds, or just fucking AC inside our hospitals in cities where we have temps over 100°F/40 °C every day
It’s a start.
not even a start, we already had free healthcare programs not tied to employment before
Stfu you don’t know how lucky you are
Seriously, these are empty laws. “Universal healthcare” without any public health budget.
I can tell you what we get here: very cheap private primary care.
Public primary care is so awful and precarious, average MD doesn’t want to work there, average Mexican citizens (like me) doesn’t get there for cold or a minor health issue.
Many drugstore chains (even Mexican Walmart) employ MDs and offer cheap (~USD$5) consultation service and offer very cheap drugs (generic formulas).
For a common throat infection is nuts to wait days for a “free” health care, with almost no drugs stocks, and wait more than a week for a precarious lab work, when you can go to any drugstore MD (~USD$5) any day, get a cheap lab work any day (non profits private medical laboratory and chains, <USD$15 for a bacterial profile), a get all the treatment (antibiotic and painkillers) by less than USD$20 (even less with discounts).
Is cheap even for our economic standards.
Medical specialists are expensive, but way cheaper than USA. You can access a cardiologist, neurologist, urologist for around USD$40 to USD$75 the visit.
You can die here before a public hospital appointment for a specialist (months to a year backlogs)
Why so cheap? Private insurance here is a (very expensive) joke. Cost too much for 95% of the citizens. People pay directly for services, some even tolerate public health services. Market adapts with cheap services for common health issues.
If you got a rare cancer or illness and not in the private insurance umbrella, you are almost dead. You can read about our infamous survival cancer rate on public health institutions.
I am a low income Mexican citizen with some chronic health issues, I pay for my healthcare and meds.
si señor ya me cayo disculpe usted por querer hablar de mi experiencia siendo mexicano
soy un pobre indio tonto que no conozco mi lugar y deberia estar agradecido de poder compartir este lugar con gente como usted
edit: well it’s clear to me this is an english speaking space, but I don’t know why I expected something else from a mostly liberal space where people outside of my country will try to shut me and tell me I’m wrong while they live in a country rich thanks to colonialism
hope you enjoy your ‘uplifting news’, hope they make you happy and you will never have to step into an IMSS clinic in your privileged life
Browsers have translate functions these days. Reply in whatever language you like …. Or at least a supported one. I see what you said and assume it was meant sarcastically
it’s the irony for me, trying to shut me off for talking about the situation in my own country while I’m doing to effort to communicate in their language
I’m not a stranger to the way americans treat us
cierra la puta boca
que agradable sujeto
That’s a bit like yelling at firefighters for wasting time connecting their hoses when they should be putting the fire out.
No no no, the firefighters SAID they are connecting their hoses but in reality there are no hoses, they spent that money for the hoses on something else and people have to put out the fire by themselves
There is a difference between putting something in paper and actually putting policy in action
Dang, I guess they shouldn’t have made this law then, huh? What a waste of time trying to create the legislative framework to improve things when obviously its futile to try to improve things. We should just accept that things are currently bad, and that they’ll never get better, right?
man what a waste of bits for this comment, yeah I guess, next time we will put a law to end world hunger?
but go off, it’s not like we have an issue where healthcare quality is declining in Mexico while the government is spending money on projects like Tren Maya, AIFA or more fossil fuels…
I’m amazed by you people, you will complain (rightfully) that trump has wasted a lot of money on his shitty war and his shitty ballroom while their people are suffering but when a self proclaimed ‘leftist’ gov does the same shit you will believe whatever they say at face value and ignore what the actual citizens have to say about it
Genuine question, is the article posted painting the wrong picture as well? Its conclusions for example:
To me it seems like it raises concerns similar to the ones I’ve seen here, but still has a kind-of-hopeful outlook. Am I missing something?
Well now you’re moving the goalposts. At first you were just complaining that this step in the right direction is useless.
you can’t see how it is useless? I’m telling you it is useless because there is no real access to quality healthcare and giving you examples on how dismissive you all are about this issue just because on paper we are moving to the right direction
cool I guess I moved the goalpost by giving you more context on my country
Seems like a step in the right direction to better serve the people, as opposed to trumping being many steps in the wrong direction for personal enrichment to the detriment of the people.
I can see how you could confuse them …. NOT
You see how some americans still support trump because the only media they consume will feed them lies about how he wants the country to prosper but he keeps getting sabotaged or something?
Well it’s the same shit here, while our government will say all this, they are getting richer with illegal oil bypassing out taxes and giving huge contracts to their family and friends
(oh yeah and we are not even touching the topic of all the foreign projects approved by our gov that will destroy a lot of our natural reservations)
I can see how you are ignorant of our current situation in México
me sorprende la autoridad con la que vienen a hablar los extranjeros de nuestra situación. entiendo que en lemmy muchos somos de izquierda pero si realmente creen que el gobierno actual de México ve por los intereses del proletariado pues están bien pendejos y probablemente lo sean si son gringos