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      8 days ago

      i am on the record as saying that nobody “deserves” to die, but i can get behind a noble sacrifice in the name of scientific advancement.

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        Someone responsible for the deaths of millions of people (remember USAID?) deserves to die.

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          i will continue disagreeing. i think they need to see the damage first hand. they deserve to be stripped of power and fame, prevented from ever gaining it back, and permanently marked to live in misery for the rest of their lives.

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            Seeing the suffering makes him happy not miserable. He is fully aware of what he is doing.

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                At this point you are denying reality because such evil is incomprehensible to a functional well adjusted person like yourself. Broken people who need to be disposed of exist. Your ideals don’t change that oppressively sad fact.

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        I would argue people deserve to die if they’re sufficient net negative to society. I believe Musk is one of these, as are most, if not all, seriel killers. The issue is determining who these people are, which we won’t all agree on. I don’t think the state should have this power because they get it wrong too often (and also I think their incentives are usually wrong and they benefit from protecting the wealthy).

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          i woulh rather they be made to personally deal with all the consequences of their actions. do unto others. death is easy, but making these people grasp what they have done is hard.

          unfortunately there’s no real way to do that.

          not believing anyone deserves to die doesn’t mean i don’t approve.

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      8 days ago

      Completely unrelated question, how long has it been since the last time we had a vivisection?

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    How rich does someone have to be before their physical body is torn to shreds in front of a cheering crowd? Purely theoretical question

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            It should be nationalized. It does do some good things. It just does a lot of harm while doing so. It should be allowed to keep operating, but for the public good.

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            SpaceX does but X.ai, X, and all the other shit companies he umbrella’d under it and not worth it. That’s what I meant by disband

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              yeah unfortunately musk has gotten that idea that you can’t have a mars colony unless you also have fully autonomous robotic workforce there to build everything … i don’t agree.

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      Depends on how powerful they are.

      I’m sure millions of Ukrainians would love to tear billionaire Putin to shreds, they just can’t get at him.

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    The other monkeys would kill the hoarding monkey and take his bananas. Maybe the monkeys have it figured out.

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      Eat and masturbate all day

      Sleep in a tree

      Occasionally violently murder others causing you distress

      Yeah, I think they have it pretty figured out. We fucked it up

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      With humans, the monkeys with atleast one banana defend the banana hoarder because they want to kill the starving monkeys.

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    I like the video of researchers experimenting on social behavior in monkeys where they gave one monkey a banana who was happy until they gave another monkey a cherry in view of the first. That first monkey lost his shit and started screaming at the researcher by being visibly frustrated in his cage.

    That’s us, except we are losing our bananas, while the other one is getting the entire cherry orchid.

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    It’s good to know we learned the obvious and valuable lesson Howard Hughes and the dangers of concentrated wealth have taught us multiple times over throughout the past, because it would be really fucking stupid for the world to repeatedly enable that exact same situation over and over again, that would be really disappointing.

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    I mean, in the simplistic case of monkeys, this doesn’t work because the other monkeys starve, which is a failure as a species.

    The monkey would have to hoard just enough bananas that the other monkeys can still barely their basic desires, while keeping them hungry for more and letting them believe they could one day be like you and get as many bananas by working their way up an imaginary hierarchy, where the way to go up is to fuck over other monkeys and get you as many bananas as they can, while you give them the minimum possible share.

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    Bananas are perishable, so yeah it’s kinda dumb to hoard them unless you are planning to bake a lot of banana bread. Mmmmm banana bread!

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    i like her argument and all but…

    now that elon-monkey is here, she-monkey should tell them other monkeys where those scientists should be~