Incel Manosphere Influencer, who is the dictionary definition of a logical fallacy. There is a bad system and instead of abolishing it, we join it, to escape it.
Same. I’ll take a stab at it without doing any research.
I’m guessing Clavicular is a person, perhaps an influencer. I believe the implication is that the old crone he rated as a 4/10 was a witch who cursed him to wake up without a jaw because that would be ironic given his name.
I think this reply may be attached to the wrong comment in the chain for context, but I think the meaning is a bit different (just slightly).
Clavicular was mid jestergooning
Clavicular was in the middle of making a fool of himself for attention
when a group of Foids came
when a group of women came in (“foids”, female humanoids, dehumanizing)
and spiked his Cortisol levels
and riled him up.
Is Ignoring the Foids while munting
Is ignoring the women while getting blitzed/shitfaced (may not be an accurate interpretation of "munting, but it appears to either be a shock value thing involving necrophilia or just getting high on drugs, so I interpreted it as the latter based on context)
and mogging moids
and styling on the other guys (“moids”, male humanoids, dehumanizing)
more useful then SMV chadfishing in the club?
more useful than increasing his sexual market value by being fake as hell in the club?
I appreciate the feedback on my attempt to translate this into late 20th century vernacular. The ego of Clavicular is timeless toxic masculinity, but I’m trying to find time sensitive descriptors that are but aren’t cliche.
The TLDR: Clavicular correctly identifies a real issue that we on the left have identified for decades, that society and people within society are implicitly biased towards a social definition of beauty, which Clavicular identifies as the “floor” of your potential. No matter how good you are at something, if there is a more beautiful person as good (or even less good) at the same thing, society will pick the “more beautiful” over the more capable every time. Literally, Claviculars analysis is the same critical analysis that results in policies like DEI, to try and undo some of this implicit bias that society has artificially baked in. Its just that their response isn’t to try and change or rage against that implicit bias, its to try and work within it, ie, look-maxing, to become the most beautiful person, so you start at the highest implicit social rung.
Thank you for sharing the video. I ended up watching the whole thing and found myself of a similar mind as the presenters: he makes a lot of points that sound downright reasonable. I expected some vapid jock-type like you typically see on reality TV, but he’s able to articulate a lot of problems about our current society in ways that I can’t really refute. It’s just his solutions to those issues that are wrong.
And I think that’s what makes his position as an influencer so dangerous. He’s speaking to the genuine lack of class mobility that Millennials through Gen Alpha have had to accept as reality, and “proving” his point through his own life. Sure he might die by the age of 40 with how unhealthy his lifestyle is. But I think a lot of people in the younger generations would likewise rather party it up to unhealthy degrees while young than work a menial dead-end job for 50 years, hoping you get a couple years of retirement in your old age before you die.
I think that really nails it. Also, I think something the panel highlights, is how dismissive and frankly, arrogant, the existing criticism of Clavicular seems to be. Because it only further entrenches people who might be convinced by Clavicular to be even further influenced by Clavicular.
The Austrailian 60 minutes interview, where the interviewer with like, underwear model level good looks makes the claim “Of course my success isn’t related to me being handsome. Obviously its because I’m so egregiously talented”: Its so on the nose.
And I love how FD connected it to white supremacy, because its exactly what it is. Its the same thing, and his metaphor that white supremecy is the dark matter of our society; that its made to be invisible but makes up 90% of what exists…
Overnight, a person became an ugly monster that lacks a jaw
After Rating Old Crone A 4
Person had publicly declared that they consider a particular elderly individual to be a four out of ten on their personal sexual attractiveness scale.
Clavicular Wakes Up As Hideous, Jawless Monster After Rating Old Crone A 4
An internet celebrity had publicly declared that they consider a particular elderly individual to be a four out of ten on their personal sexual attractiveness scale. In response, the elderly individual put a curse on the celebrity while they slept, turning them into an ugly monster that lacks a jaw.
There-in lies the humor. Don’t ever learn the lingo, just start subtly mentioning cortisol levels to give young people in your life aneurisms. It’s great.
I think I’m having a stroke.
These are words. I understand all of these words individually. Yet any three or more sequential words I don’t understand at all.
Incel Manosphere Influencer, who is the dictionary definition of a logical fallacy. There is a bad system and instead of abolishing it, we join it, to escape it.
Same. I’ll take a stab at it without doing any research.
I’m guessing Clavicular is a person, perhaps an influencer. I believe the implication is that the old crone he rated as a 4/10 was a witch who cursed him to wake up without a jaw because that would be ironic given his name.
How’d I do?
I think I might have translated it for the older folks.
“Dude was totally shreddin’ the game at the club when a bunch of weebs rolled up and harsh’d the vibe.
So is it more gnarly to blow off the weebs while actin’ fly for the babes, or should he keep dropping poseur moves on the dance floor?”
I think this reply may be attached to the wrong comment in the chain for context, but I think the meaning is a bit different (just slightly).
Clavicular was in the middle of making a fool of himself for attention
when a group of women came in (“foids”, female humanoids, dehumanizing)
and riled him up.
Is ignoring the women while getting blitzed/shitfaced (may not be an accurate interpretation of "munting, but it appears to either be a shock value thing involving necrophilia or just getting high on drugs, so I interpreted it as the latter based on context)
and styling on the other guys (“moids”, male humanoids, dehumanizing)
more useful than increasing his sexual market value by being fake as hell in the club?
I appreciate the feedback on my attempt to translate this into late 20th century vernacular. The ego of Clavicular is timeless toxic masculinity, but I’m trying to find time sensitive descriptors that are but aren’t cliche.
I needed help understanding this brave new world, and this breakdown by ABitFruity really helped:
A longform leftist discussion on Clavicular: Clavicular Is a Symptom, Not The Cause (with F.D Signifier and Kat Tenbarge)
The TLDR: Clavicular correctly identifies a real issue that we on the left have identified for decades, that society and people within society are implicitly biased towards a social definition of beauty, which Clavicular identifies as the “floor” of your potential. No matter how good you are at something, if there is a more beautiful person as good (or even less good) at the same thing, society will pick the “more beautiful” over the more capable every time. Literally, Claviculars analysis is the same critical analysis that results in policies like DEI, to try and undo some of this implicit bias that society has artificially baked in. Its just that their response isn’t to try and change or rage against that implicit bias, its to try and work within it, ie, look-maxing, to become the most beautiful person, so you start at the highest implicit social rung.
Just watch two minutes of this clip. It captures the whole point: https://inv.nadeko.net/pvqBPkJIkmc?t=4693
Thank you for sharing the video. I ended up watching the whole thing and found myself of a similar mind as the presenters: he makes a lot of points that sound downright reasonable. I expected some vapid jock-type like you typically see on reality TV, but he’s able to articulate a lot of problems about our current society in ways that I can’t really refute. It’s just his solutions to those issues that are wrong.
And I think that’s what makes his position as an influencer so dangerous. He’s speaking to the genuine lack of class mobility that Millennials through Gen Alpha have had to accept as reality, and “proving” his point through his own life. Sure he might die by the age of 40 with how unhealthy his lifestyle is. But I think a lot of people in the younger generations would likewise rather party it up to unhealthy degrees while young than work a menial dead-end job for 50 years, hoping you get a couple years of retirement in your old age before you die.
I think that really nails it. Also, I think something the panel highlights, is how dismissive and frankly, arrogant, the existing criticism of Clavicular seems to be. Because it only further entrenches people who might be convinced by Clavicular to be even further influenced by Clavicular.
The Austrailian 60 minutes interview, where the interviewer with like, underwear model level good looks makes the claim “Of course my success isn’t related to me being handsome. Obviously its because I’m so egregiously talented”: Its so on the nose.
And I love how FD connected it to white supremacy, because its exactly what it is. Its the same thing, and his metaphor that white supremecy is the dark matter of our society; that its made to be invisible but makes up 90% of what exists…
An internet celebrity ended their sleep session
Overnight, a person became an ugly monster that lacks a jaw
Person had publicly declared that they consider a particular elderly individual to be a four out of ten on their personal sexual attractiveness scale.
An internet celebrity had publicly declared that they consider a particular elderly individual to be a four out of ten on their personal sexual attractiveness scale. In response, the elderly individual put a curse on the celebrity while they slept, turning them into an ugly monster that lacks a jaw.
Haha same
There-in lies the humor. Don’t ever learn the lingo, just start subtly mentioning cortisol levels to give young people in your life aneurisms. It’s great.