• TronBronson@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    People hate data centers because they are being forced into our communities without our consent. Consent. Consent.consent

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      11 days ago

      Most datacenters are not in urban communities they are in industrial zones.

      You also don’t need the consent of other people to build things on land you own. Get out of here with this shit.

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        6 days ago

        You do need consent from other people…. That’s the whole point of zoning laws…… which is half the reason why there’s a housing crisis…. I’m a real estate agent and a real estate developer and have been for two decades so I don’t need your childish little fucking opinion on shit. Always some libertarian moron trying to pretend like laws don’t exist everywhere.

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          6 days ago

          Yeah you need the consent of the council for planning permission. Not the consent of the individual people.

          I am not a libertarian either, but whatever.

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            5 days ago

            Well, you’ve kind of missed the basis of a democracy. You the individual person cast a vote for your council person, right? Usually when we have town council meetings regarding real estate development, individual people do show up and scream.

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              5 days ago

              Thinking democracy actually works and the representatives actually care about the people is very wishful thinking. From my experience they don’t and they haven’t for a long time.

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                1 day ago

                I live in a town of 2,000 people and democracy does work. We get to hooting and hollering on the town Facebook page and we’re tossing a bunch of local officials in a few weeks

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              5 days ago

              I wouldn’t know. I haven’t been to a town council meeting before.

              Would a town council even be involved in an industrial zone which might not even be part of a town?

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                1 day ago

                Industrial zones are defined by the town council! You should go some time. I used to develop weed grows. Everyone shows up and acts like you’re gonna sell their grandkids drugs. It’s great.

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                  1 day ago

                  In my country weed isn’t legal. I get what you are saying though. NIMBYs are a problem everywhere. Which makes me wonder why you are saying that these data centers can build wherever. Surely if democracy and local government works as well as you say it does they wouldn’t be able to build anything that big without the say so of the local people, no?

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          5 days ago

          If you need the consent to build them then how are they being forced on communities without consent? You are contradicting yourself now.

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            1 day ago

            Clearly you’ve never been to a heated town council meeting over the development of a small duplex. Grow up and participate in your local government?