• TronBronson@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Well, you’ve kind of missed the basis of a democracy. You the individual person cast a vote for your council person, right? Usually when we have town council meetings regarding real estate development, individual people do show up and scream.

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      6 days ago

      Thinking democracy actually works and the representatives actually care about the people is very wishful thinking. From my experience they don’t and they haven’t for a long time.

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        2 days ago

        I live in a town of 2,000 people and democracy does work. We get to hooting and hollering on the town Facebook page and we’re tossing a bunch of local officials in a few weeks

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      6 days ago

      I wouldn’t know. I haven’t been to a town council meeting before.

      Would a town council even be involved in an industrial zone which might not even be part of a town?

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        2 days ago

        Industrial zones are defined by the town council! You should go some time. I used to develop weed grows. Everyone shows up and acts like you’re gonna sell their grandkids drugs. It’s great.

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          2 days ago

          In my country weed isn’t legal. I get what you are saying though. NIMBYs are a problem everywhere. Which makes me wonder why you are saying that these data centers can build wherever. Surely if democracy and local government works as well as you say it does they wouldn’t be able to build anything that big without the say so of the local people, no?

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            12 hours ago

            I mean ya democracy is often subverted by money and power. Your town council can sell you out. You can emergency recall them and pass laws tho. idk democracy provides the means, the whole country is just a bunch of spineless cunts.

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              10 hours ago

              I don’t think that the everyday people in my country are spineless. Our leaders on the other hand…

              Have you heard of Lizz Truss who lasted for less time than a piece of lettuce? Now that’s what I call spineless.

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                8 hours ago

                I was there to bear witness to the lettuce victory! But I don’t know we don’t really hold our spineless leaders to account. It’s like trickle down spinelessness. we’ve been wet by it. I do not follow UK politics outside of the national scope but im sure politicians across the globe all get fed by the same hands at this point.

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                  7 hours ago

                  I don’t think in the USA the leaders or the people are really spineless. You elected Donald Trump twice. The time he lost the people threw a terrorist act of insurrection. Those are not spineless things. Just because the result is not what you wanted doesn’t make it spineless. In fact it’s pretty much the opposite.