

Genuine question…how else is it going to connect to the internet to upload data?
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Genuine question…how else is it going to connect to the internet to upload data?


Agreed, but, router block is far less work. 🤣


I have a Samsung TV that I suspect does this. Once upon a time (back when I was less knowledgeable about this practice) I connected my TV to the internet. I have since been totally I able to forget my network from the TV, even a factory reset didn’t wipe the network settings from it. I’ve had to block it from the network at a router level.
I only discovered it was still doing this when I got a new router, and I had a popup on my TV saying “software update downloaded and complete” and I was wondering how tf it did that even though I’d gone through the process of forgetting the network, and seemingly the settings showed it had been “done”.
Shady fucks.


Ha! Well, I’m glad we moved our gaming community off of it when all this kicked off first time round, knowing full well it wouldn’t be the last time they tried this shit. We started entirely self hosting our community to focus on user privacy and haven’t looked back since.
If people want a link to join, comment or DM, I don’t want this to come across like a sales pitch or shill lol


I don’t think any of that is an issue if you’re running self hosted. We literally don’t get any of that info/use any of it lol.


…is it? Even on PWA? I’ve used Vivaldi, Safari, Zen and Firefox with no trouble (and on Desktop variants too)


Huh. I’m not well versed enough on that side of it to be able to pass comment on it tbh, one of our other admins manages that. I can say that it does at least run flawlessly and we’ve never had an issue


Yeah, you’ve more or less got it- you pay if you want them to host it. But the open source is just that, in that you can entirely self host the software on your own machinery. That’s exactly what we do. The only cost for us here being the cost of renting the server (Hetzner in this case).
So, for anyone wanting to create an account with our instance, it’s entirely free ☺️


Erm. It is.
https://www.discourse.org/open-source
Edit: join us and check it out yourself, if you like. We talk all things FOSS, Linux and gaming: discourse.gamerstavern.online


Discourse. Plenty of plugins and customisation to play about with. Self hosted, too.
Can check it out at discourse.gamerstavern.online if you like.


Huh. After all the Discord shite with face verification shite, me and my community (The Gamers’ Tavern) moved across to a forum first platform which also has live chat, and it has been an absolute breath of fresh air.
Bring back more forums imo


I covered this in this comment here: https://lemmy.world/comment/24536634
Google basically shuttered Tenor and heavily funded the replacement, which is showing sketchy early signs of ads.


Source: Klipy themselves.
Why Fluxer over Stoat, there is a lot to unpack here, but self hosting was much more mature and well thought out with Fluxer. Docker support was way beyond Stoat, and development is proceeding at a much better rate with mobile apps, integrations etc. We probably answer a lot of the questions here: https://blog.gamerstavern.online/innkeeper/about-community-and-communities


Worth noting that while Klipy is headed up by ex Tenor employees, Google has also heavily invested in Klipy.
At my community (The Gamers’ Tavern) we ditched Discord (when all the age verification crap started) in favour of Discourse and Fluxer (Discord clone, but open source and self hostable) and currently Klipy integration is offering a sketchy and vague pricing model that is looking like it is going to include ads.
So, that’s the vein that runs through all of this. Google killed Tenor, funded a new startup that’ll eventually likely be somewhere they can of course shove ads into.
Yeah that’s fortunately not a problem for me lol