and what isn’t… pretty sure in a Ross Ulbricht situation… there was more than enough stuff he needed to remain private currently open, and in the main files. Ulbright could have been on a live CD on a computer with no physical hard drive, and it wouldn’t have helped him since they nailed him after he had logged into the silk road.

and security on pages is useless if you are logged in.

We’re already talking the least of security problems (IE the device being physically confiscated).

In ross’s case which hurt him more do you think, the fact that his system probably had logs of what he installed… or the fact that it was taken while he was logged in as administrator to the silk road? and it supposedly contained a journal… not system logs, but activities that he specifically wrote out detailing his daily activities.

The point again is someone gaining physical access to the computer itself, while you are literally in the process of doing things that you don’t want known about, what you are currently working on is 100x more valuable to the thief, feds or whatever, than any of the low level stuff that the logs are likely to be recording.

You posted this same silly thing about 3 days ago.

anyway why isn’t the advice “encrypt your drives” instead of “disable all logging”.

I mean your own examples are like the least serious problem.

Who is logged in and when? So we’re talking a multi user system that’s clearly hosting a lot… that’s kind of important for an administrator to be able to track who is logging in when, to know if something goes wrong.

Package manager logs what’s installed. well duh, what’s the scenerio that this is even a factor? I don’t want big government to know I had, qbittorrent or whatever? There’s no program that’s likely installed via apt that’s illegal to have.

So yeah in short, stuff that’s vital if you ever need to troubleshoot, useful in general, almost unthinkable to imagine situations where this is a problem (at least in situations in which someone has your user account, or root access to your system for these to be the high priority.

On the whole the idea there is like.

“If someone steals your car… they could also steal the car users manual”.

Just switch to physical pen and paper…

Wait, CRAP, did you know that a pysical notepad logs every pen stroke? not only on the paper it’s written, but it puts traces onto the next page as well.

Sure it’s not sending it to others… but if the police cease the notepad they can recover everything currently written in it, and possibly even some of the pages that were torn out from the indentations on the other pages.

I guess my point is federated services, at least prior to a world where they become mainstream, are only particularly good if

1. You have a group of people all willing to use them together (IE Matrix, Friendster etc…), Join as a group don’t expect to find other specific individuals.

2. If you do want to meet people, you are looking for pretty broad categories encompass millions. IE on lemmy you can certainly find an anime community, you won’t find an active jujitsu kaisen community.

Anyway so my point on things like Dating, Linked In etc… those topics are likely to be the last to have a hope in the federation, because their services on their own, require users, but more importantly those users have to be localized (IE dating sites need, both a high volume of users, and those users need to be in close geographical proximity, and have some reasonable male to female ratio, and then have some level of common interests). A linked in needs… job seekers, and companies/head hunters. Of which you can’t expect companies to put in resources without a large userbase… and you can’t expect the userbase to grow without company usage.

Is there even really a function for linkedin without… well what it is? The last people to adopt new and open source tech are… corporate executives, and to my knowledge the whole point of linked in is, a psudo job hunting web page, with some social media pages as a secondary (of which people are only going to be posting “work hard” and “I work hard” kind of messages because… well they’d never post something that might make them less attractive to employers.

I guess the point is, what’s the use of an open non corporate controlled linked in? I can convince a handful of friends to maybe join a facebook alternative to make it useful, Lemmy certainly is an ok reddit alternative, at least for the equivelant of bigish communities, and mid sized tech communities.

Things I don’t see working in federation, are things that you are looking for… well people that aren’t going to switch for you… and most importantly people geographically close to you. Companies aren’t going to use their HR members time searching for people on a niche career site, dating sites are likely lost causes because… well no matter how bad the sites are… a dating site where most people are 300 miles away from the nearest compatible person isn’t going to be of much use, and job seekers don’t have the luxury of moving before the companies they want to work for go.

I mean I don’t really consider him a deplorable person… He was a dumb edgy teen 15 years ago that happened to strike a cord with the overwhelming amount of dumb edgy teens on youtube, and strike it rich. I haven’t paid a ton of attention to him, but from what I saw of his linux and gadget crafting videos, it sounds like he’s grown up a fair amount from his days of scream streaming.