Hmmm go figure at the comments here complaining about Bazzite, I’ve been on it over a year now and really like it

I am seeing more and more folks go veg simply because the price, and that’s great! Build a culture of veg meals and normalize the epic curries, chillis, soups, stews, spreads, and tofu / seitan/mushroom dishes

I really like Derek Sarno’s YouTube channel for this reason. I feel very welcome watching his content because he doesn’t browbeat folks who aren’t fully vegan, he just presents an epic mountain of some of the most mouth watering vegan food I’ve ever seen.

Instead of purity tests to keep folks out, we need more people like Derek who hold the door open for everyone, so they can smell the amazing food cooking inside.

I think you need to look into how rare earth minerals are mined. Or how slavery works. Humans treat humans as bad as any animal if they can make a profit.

Consider that humans sometimes bully other humans to death simply for the power trip. That is some pretty horrific physiological torture.

We’re not that far from accepted child labor. Chimney sweeps. Heck there’s a chance clothes we’ve worn this week were sewn by children in a sweatshop. Or the phone or computer metals were mined with child slave labor.

This is why veganism is hard for me, it’s absolutely not possible to live a cruelty free life unless you’re living on your own land with your own spun clothes and never consuming medication (all tested on lab mice).

Drawing the “perfect line” at eating only plant based food is fine, but it’s a far cry from a cruelty free life. Folks get very serious optimizing on one dimension of cruelty (foods not being animal products) but then completely ignore everything else. And then bully others who do not do the same.

I’d rather see a universe like the OP, better to celebrate every step folks do take in the right direction, not tell them it’s not enough. Everyone should be celebrated for:

• making clothes last longer
• buying used clothes
• keeping the same vehicle longer
• choosing vegan dishes when they can
• delaying PC and phone upgrades, buying used when they do
• taking the bus over driving, walking instead of taking the bus
• standing up to bullies
• growing food at home