If you want to live in the AI utopia of the 21st century, china sadly is the destination. Here in the us all we’ve got is israel’s surveillance feudal colony.

It s like a quadrilateral but it s called a goonilateral. Great for bonding with your buds and learning geometry. Next week i might teach you kids where the clitoris is.

Really cool to hear and my mistake, I am used to people pretending to be engineers far more often than being engineers, If I can ask, what s the denso for?

Also Bridgeports are dope, I loved to machine steel at the labs in school, but Im a bit younger haha, the bridgeports were 75yo, tried to tear my arms off because who needs machine security? and my profs would tell me to stick to them “because you ll be a sissy if you spend all your time on the rinky dink newer chinese mills”

I know it is but I do not want to call it an algorithm? I’m asking as someone who doesn t work in it but pretty close. As I see it, AI is a set of functions turned into tensor operations in a dimensional space (basically my university matrices class) and the parameters weights are adjusted based on collected data (human data as i understand in this case it could be reddit comment libraries or books or Meta data ).

That last bit is why I don’t confuse it with an algorithm since then it would be a heuristic. Algos are predictible, like running a graphic simulation that uses a physical and logic model, yeah id agree that s all a system of algorithms. Heuristic in terms of structure and method may look like algorithms but they are “rule of thumb” approximations for specific problems where we cannot build a math system (like an algo). At this point it is the human element and adaptation of the AI to you that would make it a heuristic.

Makes sense?

So we went from “i make robotics” to figuring out you re a CNC operator typing in G-code…? listen man, pure theoretical engineering and using mastercam or whatever MCAD/CAD software to cut up some chunk of 6061 aluminium or soft steel is not the same, and I say this as someone who has done both.

Computer vision and machine learning has little to do with robotics, but alright since you seem to work with know something about thermodynamics and are not a sys_admin like all the desk jockeys, i ll be nice and call you the E word.

But robotics itself is such a small niche that random people invoke because they see it in movies that I am skeptical to believe it as a systems and automation engineer, that s basically as close as 95% of engineer will ever get to robotics unless you re in China (mechatronics is not robotics btw) or work for Kuka/ABB…

Algorithms are discrete operations done in a sequence, they are typically blind to ideas or personal opinions and are used for data processing, filtering, or calculations. Facial recognition algorithms are typically what you would call a complex algorithm as it uses conditions based on what the camera captures to make decisions as to where the face of said person is, if it is a person, are they smiling? What are their physical traits? Do they have white, brown, or dark skin, to adjust the contrast level for a good photo.

Artificial intelligence models are not math driven. They are language models, trained through machine learning and operating on a transformer architecture. Not only do they not replicate the reasoning a human (they predict the probability of action based on statistics of choices of others) and are most definitely going to be used to influence choices and opinions, not in an educational manner but in coercive and controlling manner. And it will become very hard to understand what AI produced propaganda will become. Even scarier though to me, is that it will be even harder to understand the effects of AI use, since all political actions have a direct effects which are often easy to predict, but they also cause these “ripple effects” which are the more dangerous side of politics and these ripple effects caused by AI use in politics will be impossible to predict for me, you and the AIs due to their early stage.

Meanwhile I, systems engineer wonders why the IT dude called himself an “engineer”

There are plenty of other events like flight 655 which was a passenger flight from Tehran in the 90s which got shot down by a US navy warship for no reason. 300 innocent people died because of a miscommunicated order by the navy personel.

To add something; I like to think of Hegel in those moment and the master/servant dialectic,simply; two consciousness find themselves in a shared space. Since they exist for themselves in that first moment and are encountering a plurality for the first time, they enter a conflict. One wins, the other loses and both establish different states of self-consciousness due to this.

The loser becomes the servant, has to think of himself and his duty to the master, and finds meaning and recognition in the master’s eyes. The master does not think of the servant’s thoughts, only his own. The servant in the eyes of the master gains meaning, he can revolt, improve, love or hate, whilst the master is not seen, he only is, and this means his self-conception is not anchored, thus the master cannot reach self-consciousness but his servant can as he experiences a higher authority.

In practical scenarios, this is what explains in my eyes the hubris of the powerful and the optimism of the miserable. The tyrant punishes through anger, because he cannot gain any satisfaction from his state, whilst the one in servitude learns through his opression what resilience is, finds internal freedom and liberation by experiencing the worst. This really resonates with the psychotic crisis/mania the US states are going through right now and the strange self-aware calm the Iranians show whilst being in the most vulnerable position.

Forgot to also add they killed Mohamed Mozadegh, the first democratically elected president of iran in 1953, a socialist and instead placed the Shah with the help of the british crown and the US gov, If you wonder why Iran has it for europe and the US, this is the tip of the iceberg of why. Plenty of fucked up shit happened later as well.

Aunt clara can’t conspiracy theory the oil and gas industry?!?!

British petroleum invented the carbon footprint and climate change denialism but aunt clara want to talk about little simon’s gender…

What most people call “algorithms” are not algorithms, artificial intelligences have replaced math formulas to back the recommendations your phone makes to you. Welcome to techno-feudalism!

Just like the luddites.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddites

But then how will we resurrect the great israel?