• Tonava@sopuli.xyz
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    12 days ago

    Just out of curiosity, what’s your stance then on people who cannot switch to a fully vegan diet because of health reasons? I’m always interested in hearing vegans takes on this, since they seem to vary a lot, and it’s a personal issue for me

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      11 days ago

      That’s a more debatable thing. You’d have a necessity to not change, which makes it less immoral obviously, but it does put into perspective the question of the worth of a life, and whether a human life is worth a lifetime of meat eating/killing.

      But that’s not the case for a huge majority of people, so I would call this an edge case which is less obvious. Not everything is obviously good or bad, some areas are grey, but it doesn’t mean that some areas aren’t. Eating meat for personal pleasure/comfort is obviously immoral, once everyone aligns behind this we can start debating the edge cases.

      Also, people like you would typically be a good reason to keep on developing cellular meat, independently from vegetal alternatives to meat.

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        11 days ago

        the question of the worth of a life, and whether a human life is worth a lifetime of meat eating/killing.

        Yes, this paradox is the root of it, I think. Is it ethical for me to live while that requires killing a lot of something else? I don’t think there is any “right” answer since it all depends on what you consider to be worth more (which is also why opinions on this are interesting). I guess generally people don’t tend to say you should kill yourself if you end up in a situation like this, since it could happen to anyone with some really bad luck

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          10 days ago

          I know that most humans are not unable to survive without meat, it’s basic biology and nutrition.

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              10 days ago

              What are you even talking about?

              Other than survival needs, nothing warrants killing and eating sentient beings, in case you were suggesting otherwise. And if you were, then your morals are completely fucked up.

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                10 days ago

                Other than survival needs, nothing warrants killing and eating sentient beings

                most people don’t do that, anyway. but you’re asserting this without evidence, so it can be dismissed without evidence as well