It’s arch based but they just arbitrarily hold back all packages by a week for “review” (nobody actually reviews them). This means that security updates etc are delayed for no good reason. It also means that if you use the AUR, which their official package manager GUI allows you to, you will run into dependency hell and system breaking issues frequently. On top of that, regular infrastructure maintenance, like SSL cert renewals, just doesn’t get done, and it breaks everybody’s install.
Never used it myself, but every year or two I see an article about how one of their SSL certs expired and they have to tell all their users to set their clocks back until they can fix it.
I made the bad decision to try it instead of arch for one machine because installing was easier. And it was just constantly broken from out of date repos and all their built in shit just not being very good. And now they just released some manifest or something to try get the project back on track. I haven’t looked at it in like 5+ years but this graph makes me think nothing really changed.
No. This is the first time in ~a decade1 I’ve felt anything resembling optimism about Manjaro. That maintainers are acknowledging the deep-rooted issues (resulting in the actual reasons people sneer at Manjaro) and forcing change is something that I think should be supported. Those conversations are necessary and have a higher chance of being healthy if the peanut gallery can hold off from turning spin on everything that smells like drama…
I’m not familiar with Manjaro, what was wrong with it?
It’s arch based but they just arbitrarily hold back all packages by a week for “review” (nobody actually reviews them). This means that security updates etc are delayed for no good reason. It also means that if you use the AUR, which their official package manager GUI allows you to, you will run into dependency hell and system breaking issues frequently. On top of that, regular infrastructure maintenance, like SSL cert renewals, just doesn’t get done, and it breaks everybody’s install.
Never used it myself, but every year or two I see an article about how one of their SSL certs expired and they have to tell all their users to set their clocks back until they can fix it.
I made the bad decision to try it instead of arch for one machine because installing was easier. And it was just constantly broken from out of date repos and all their built in shit just not being very good. And now they just released some manifest or something to try get the project back on track. I haven’t looked at it in like 5+ years but this graph makes me think nothing really changed.
That’s my experience of a couple months with it as well.
Went back to my usual OpenSuSE or Fedora.
I used it 5-6 years ago, and it broke itself within a month of using, and I dropped it. Just doing normal updates, no tinkering.
Currently imploding due to internal conflict
No. This is the first time in ~a decade1 I’ve felt anything resembling optimism about Manjaro. That maintainers are acknowledging the deep-rooted issues (resulting in the actual reasons people sneer at Manjaro) and forcing change is something that I think should be supported. Those conversations are necessary and have a higher chance of being healthy if the peanut gallery can hold off from turning spin on everything that smells like drama…
1: About as long as it has been “imploding”