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PugJesus@piefed.socialM to History Memes@piefed.socialEnglish · 2 days ago

Daily reminder that ALL atrocities are bad. Yes, even of your favorite polity

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Daily reminder that ALL atrocities are bad. Yes, even of your favorite polity

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PugJesus@piefed.socialM to History Memes@piefed.socialEnglish · 2 days ago
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      Historians: Everything always bad.

      God, ain’t that the fucking truth.

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      What I really don’t get with tankies is their reverence of Russia. Their history can be summarized like so: and then everything took a change for the worse. To this day Russia is an empire where white people use colonized people to die for bits of field in parts they already starved in 1932-1933.

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        you really don’t want to get into that discussion with them, trust me

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          How else is he supposed to get his ml honor badge? 🔨

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        I’m not well versed in tankie discourse, but to challenge specifically your point, I agree Putin is very bad but surely Stalin was much worse?

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          Tankie discourse is more along the lines of “Putin is good but Stalin was even better”.

    • 𝔄 𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔦𝔢𝔫𝔱 𝔭𝔦𝔢𝔠𝔢 𝔬𝔣 𝔠𝔥𝔢𝔢𝔰𝔢@lemmy.world
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      Tbf the last 300 years put the white people in a pretty comfortable first place.

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        Well yes, but once you start oppressing a people, they generally don’t get much of a chance to oppress anyone else.

        • 𝔄 𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔦𝔢𝔫𝔱 𝔭𝔦𝔢𝔠𝔢 𝔬𝔣 𝔠𝔥𝔢𝔢𝔰𝔢@lemmy.world
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          Actually, quite the opposite is true for colonialism. Colonizers often chose a “favourite” group of local people and gave them a tiny sliver of power on the condition, that they help oppress everyone else. I’m not judging that btw.

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            Right but if you follow that power dynamic up the chain the cause would still be the group that picked the " favorite".

            This doesn’t resolve the “favorite” group from their role, but rather distributes blame to all involved

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              Moreover, the intentional pitting of Group A against Group B in colonialism is specifically to make it so that Groups A and B never realize that they could overtake their colonizers by cooperating.

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