• Vikthor@piefed.world
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    7 days ago

    No government can wage a war for twelve years against wishes of their own population.

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        6 days ago

        Ok? They might, if they wanted they could have adopted one of the European healthcare models a long time ago.

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          Voting is a sham in the US. whatever the owning class pays for is what we get here. They just propagandize the voters they can control and disenfranchise the rest. Regardless of what percent of the population wants something, the scales only move when the elite tip them. We don’t have a true democracy here.

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      7 days ago

      I remember smug Americans scolding third worlders for having dictators run their countries, proudly claiming that they themselves were just better, more democratically inclined, which ofc led them to living in democracies. The third worlders just didn’t want democracy hard enough.

      Now Trump is president and they just lay down and take it.

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      How do you explain the US wars in Vietnam and Afghanistan?

      The US population elected a president who was promising to end the Afghanistan War in 2008. That war ended in 2021. That’s at least 12 years of war against the wishes of the majority.

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        Am I? In all those long conflicts the population was at first at least indifferent(Like the US in the Vietnam war or USSR in Afghanistan war) or outright supportive(Like the US in their Afghanistan war) and after the public opinion changed the wars quickly ended. On the other hand the tsar was deposed after less than 3 years of WWI.