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Another day, another regime change supported by “progressives”.
And another revolution opposed by “revolutionaries”
Who here is just pro-revolution independent of context? Violence is a tactic, not an end unto itself.
If your revolution is being propped up by fascist state that wants nothing more than to kill a bunch of your fellow citizens and steal your oil, there are some serious open questions about what your revolution seeks to achieve, and for whom.
Every popular movement will have agents of other nations hostile to the current regime acting in it. This isn’t a reason to oppose revolutionary movements, especially ones fighting against theocracies killing their own citizens. What we should be doing is opposing foreign intervention, but ultimately it doesn’t matter what we say online
I’m not saying this should be reflexively opposed. I’m saying that if a movement is accepting help from some of the worst people in the world, that movement deserves a great deal of skepticism.
Desperate people for freedom tend to not have a choice on whose help they accept, I can’t begrudge them that.
Revolutions start from the bottom and dismantle the top. It’s not a revolution if one top is overthrowing another top…
Even if that’s what’s going on in Iran, no, it is in fact a revolution if one top is overthrowing another top as long as there’s enough non-top participation, which there is in Iran. What you’re thinking of is social revolution, which is a subcategory of revolution.
By this logic every US election is a revolution 🤣
Nope that’s still not a revolution, that is just regime change.
And thus I refer you back to the original meme.
I got a better one for ya
I dunno man there doesn’t seem to be the conditions for a self actualising revolution atm and isreal and the usa are undoubtably interfering. I mean the shah prince? the lion and sun flag? really?
Don’t get me wrong, braindead monarchists exist in iran and the diaspora in the same approximate proportion as every where stained by that transgression but this doesn’t seem like it’s going to lead to a government that cares for the people.
I hope I’m wrong but I am distinctly lukewarm on this. The current gov has been pretty effective at preventing organising and using misogyny as a wedge to divide the people.
there was a legitimate movement and a much more violent co-opting of the moment by mossad.
maybe there’s better options than revolution when destabilizing the government would let the united states install a monarch?
Yea there was definitely no reason for Iranians to ever revolt against a fucking theocracy.
I never said I support the US intervening
دوستان من در ایران واقعاً با این اوضاع مخالف هستند و حس میکنند که دستکاری میشوند. آنها ترجیح میدهند خودشان برای حقوقشان بایستند، به جای اینکه خشونت از سوی خارجیها به آنها تحمیل شود.
you don’t support it but your position facilitates and enables it. a weak Iran is good for israel and the US.
recall everything you ever thought about Libya or Syria. How are those going? I don’t like the iranian government either but they aid Palestine and are standing against the greatest evil in the world.
Then they should try to not be theocratic shitheads. I hear it helps against revolutions
please learn literally anything about how the 20th century went in iran.
EDIT: Nevermind, I don’t care enough to insult you for your thought terminating cliches
