[a wide character looks smug with a wide smile]
Your ideology is wrong and can’t work because “human nature” is to exploit others

[a thought bubble is connected to their head]
I really really want to exploit others, exploiting or being exploited is the only way I can picture society please God I play that you let me become an exploiter I dream of it every day

https://thebad.website/comic/the_human_nature_alibi

    • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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      From the time of the Natufians, beginning around 13100 BC , up to the Early Bronze Age IIb around 3200 BC, there are only a handful of violent deaths indicated by skeletal remains:

      Guess the Bronze Age Collapse never happened. The Sea Peoples never swept through coastal cities raiding and plundering in the Mediterranean. Egypt and Assyria never dominated their neighbors. All those books I read were wrong. Even in Egyptian tombs, the extensive records of wars are all wrong.

      Listen up. New information. All reports of societies duking it out in ancient history didn’t happen. It’s time to realign our understanding of human nature. War is a modern concept. In fact, I’m gonna go even further and declare that until the USA and our genocidal partner attacked Iran this year, there had never been a war EVER. Tell your friends.

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        If those books told you the bronze age collapse happened between 13 thousand and 3 thousand BC then they were absolutely 100% wrong.

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        13100 BC , up to the Early Bronze Age IIb around 3200

        Guess the Bronze Age Collapse never happened.

        …And this, kids, is why “a little learning is a dangerous thing”.

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        Right, surely you must question your assumptions when there are no violent deaths at all.

        The kinds of injuries they’re talking about cranial fractures, a blow to the head, multiple fractures, etc. surely are seen today in people who die on construction sites, or in car crashes or after falling off a building.

        If you’re not finding those kinds of remains, something else must be happening. Maybe there was a taboo against burying people who didn’t have perfect bodies. Maybe anybody who died from violence or violent accident was given a “sky burial” or something.

        I mean, put aside the idea that there was no war. Is it reasonable to think that in the bronze age, people aren’t getting mauled by wild animals? They’re not getting kicked in the head by their livestock? They’re not falling off buildings?

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          Peace in the prehistory is kinda difficult to prove. But if we consider the fact that they only started to build fortifications when the egyptians invaded, its likely that they lived peacefully prior to the invasion.

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            13 hours ago

            Considering that we know that chimps engage in “war”, and war has been part of recorded history since as long as there has been recorded history, it’s pretty easy to assume that there has always been “war”.

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              But humans also descended from the more peaceful Bonobos. If we were really warlike by default like the chimps we would be more than happy to engage in warfare no?

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                We didn’t descend from either chimps or bonobos. Chimps, bonobos and humans all descended from a common ancestor.

                In addition, bonobos do engage in violent conflicts. Much less often than chimps, but it does happen.