say what you will about Leon Trotsky, but the man knew what he was about when it came to the approach of the third camp rebellion. none of us can be free of our imperial overlords if all we do is switch from one capitalist structure to another with a different coat of paint. socialism without international solidarity for the working class isn’t socialism at all. it’s just politics as sports with a new coat of paint
That totally ignores what the goals of the USSR were: ending capitalism while being a transition to communism. This is literally “don’t let perfection be the enemy of the good situation.” Capitalisms power needs to be crushed before any extreme leftward movement can happen, otherwise you just get color revolutions and CIA-ops forever. It seems like you believe that the “international solidarity” that the USSR was building was imperialism, and if that’s the case, how would international solidarity look different as it slowly spread across the globe?
The Kronstadt rebellion is a “claim” now, is it? What about the mass-murder campaign the Bolsheviks used to repress the Makhnovists in Ukraine? Is that now a “claim,” too?
Last time I checked none of these were “claims” - they were, and still are, merely recorded history.
Claims are statements without proof, and this was a list of claims without any historical reference. Kronstadt rebellion did happen, and the Makhnovists did exist.
I am making no critiques of the USSR in this statement. I am critiquing an approach I see leftists take with modern colonial-imperialist regimes that aren’t the United States today. If I want to overthrow the imperial powers of today, I have to do so by helping the people resisting their oppressors where ever they are, even if their oppressors oppose my oppressors. The people can only ever free themselves, they can never be freed by an external force. If I am going to call myself anti-imperial, I am going to act and speak in support of people resisting oppression be that a genocide in Latin America, Sudan, the Congo, or Palestine.
say what you will about Leon Trotsky, but the man knew what he was about when it came to the approach of the third camp rebellion. none of us can be free of our imperial overlords if all we do is switch from one capitalist structure to another with a different coat of paint. socialism without international solidarity for the working class isn’t socialism at all. it’s just politics as sports with a new coat of paint
That totally ignores what the goals of the USSR were: ending capitalism while being a transition to communism. This is literally “don’t let perfection be the enemy of the good situation.” Capitalisms power needs to be crushed before any extreme leftward movement can happen, otherwise you just get color revolutions and CIA-ops forever. It seems like you believe that the “international solidarity” that the USSR was building was imperialism, and if that’s the case, how would international solidarity look different as it slowly spread across the globe?
Is that what their goals were? Really?
They sure had a strange way of showing it… you know, crushing anything that was too socialist and radical for their reactionary tastes.
You got a source on these claims? Who was “too socialist” and by that do you mean adventurism?
The Kronstadt rebellion is a “claim” now, is it? What about the mass-murder campaign the Bolsheviks used to repress the Makhnovists in Ukraine? Is that now a “claim,” too?
Last time I checked none of these were “claims” - they were, and still are, merely recorded history.
Claims are statements without proof, and this was a list of claims without any historical reference. Kronstadt rebellion did happen, and the Makhnovists did exist.
So historical record only qualifies as proof when they align with your ML vibes?
Is that it?
Don’t waste your time on her.
Please be mindful of folks’ pronouns
It’s why they made ProleWiki, facts hurt their dead dictators’ feelings.
What? I just didn’t know what you were referring.
I am making no critiques of the USSR in this statement. I am critiquing an approach I see leftists take with modern colonial-imperialist regimes that aren’t the United States today. If I want to overthrow the imperial powers of today, I have to do so by helping the people resisting their oppressors where ever they are, even if their oppressors oppose my oppressors. The people can only ever free themselves, they can never be freed by an external force. If I am going to call myself anti-imperial, I am going to act and speak in support of people resisting oppression be that a genocide in Latin America, Sudan, the Congo, or Palestine.
Yes! And I’m red team!