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        The cube rule is overly complicated, the cube categories can be further simplified.

        There are 4 fundamental categories: Sandwich, Salad, Soup and Ingredient. A Trifecta, with a separate side category for individual ingredients, sometimes referred to as “meat” by some people… even though more than just meat can fit by itself (like cheese), hence calling it Ingredient instead. The simplest categories when you break it all down.

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          I won’t stand idly by and have the cube rule slandered in such a way. The cube rule has site that has very common examples: like nigiri sushi is obviously a toast, and pigs in blanket is obviously a sushi. Bonus: steak, very clearly a salad, experts agree.

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            There are several sites for the fundamental categories as well. Having a site on the internet means nothing. Anyone can make a site or a post explaining something.

            https://www.zevulsarcanum.com/post/soup-sandwich-or-salad---the-trifecta-of-food-theory
            https://dishtaxonomy.com/

            The Salad Theory even has a github.io page… although it goes a bit far in trying to say sandwiches are also an un-tossed salad, which is clearly crazy. They flew too close to the sun there.

            nigiri sushi is obviously a toast, and pigs in blanket is obviously a sushi Those two examples are built differently despite what you’re trying to claim… you chose nigiri sushi which is not like pigs in a blanket, the equivalent would actually be a sushi roll because they are both encased… and yet both of those examples are still clearly sandwiches. The cube rule isn’t fundamental, it is still one layer abstracted from the simplest categories.

            Nigiri sushi is clearly an open-faced sandwich, especially since you can easily rearrange it into a sushi roll without changing the ingredients. Pigs in a blanket would be classified the same as a burrito or corn dog, which again is a sandwich the same way a wrap is… just using a tortilla or corn batter instead of bread.

            When you break it down… you get to these four fundamental food classifications, and that’s what matters. The cube rule isn’t wrong per se… it’s just more complicated than it needs to be. It’s not broken down as far as it can go. Using the fundamental categories, you can chart any food. Between these four categories you can have sub-categories that fall between them, which most of the cube categories do.

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              Those two examples are built differently despite what you’re trying to claim

              I claimed they were fundamentally different: nigiri sushi is a toast. Pigs in blanket, though the blanket should be bacon, is a sushi. They’re very different.

              Pigs in blanket is nothing like a corn dog, you take that back. A corn dog is clearly a Calzone being encased in all sides, and pig in blanket is delicious, 2 ways they differ.

              You show any Italian a corn dog and they’ll ask you "what is this calzone. I just did they said:

              Vai via, sciocco inglese!

              I think ‘inglese’ is Italian for calzone.

              Nigiri sushi is clearly an open-faced sandwich, especially since you can easily rearrange it into a sushi roll without changing the ingredients.

              This argument doth butter no turnips! Take a pancake batter, cook it in a pan it’s a carb ready to be made into a toast… Cook it in hot oil, in a muffin tin, you got a Yorkshire pudding, clearly different food despite having the same ingredients: toad in the hole is very obviously not a toast, or an open faced sandwhich: it’s a bread bowl. Same components does not mean same food. Take cake batter and don’t cook it, it’s a nice dessert soup, I prefer Victoria sponge batter to the cake. But simply heating it up, you don’t get hot soup, you get a robust platform to build a toast, or a sushi (jam roly poly). All fundamentally different.