• drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    They all started killing each other because plasmid use makes you psychotic, unless you can afford to keep taking more and more.

    They all started taking plasmids because they needed to compete in the workplace (then later, in the war) or end up homeless / dead.

    Plasmids were legal in the first place because Randism, being based 100% on individual responsibility, doesn’t believe that things like feedback loops or cumulative effects can happen at a societal level, and so doesn’t believe in regulations.

    Plasmids are a pretty clear metaphor for dehumanizing yourself to serve the market, especially because the Randian superman is a psychopath that is only self interested.

    But even without plasmids the fact that the worlds elite were brought down to Rapture, yet (to quote an audio log) “we couldn’t all be captains of industry, someone had to scrub the toilets” bred a huge amount of resentment from people who felt scammed and now trapped down there. Just like in the real world the markets in BioShock rely completely on low level workers to be able to function, and yet punish them for being in that position.

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    Wow it’s like with vague enough framing, anybody can be the bad guys.

    “Germany was making unprecedented scientific discoveries and innovating every aspect of their country from equality to population control when they were brutally attacked and their leader driven to suicide.”

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    Now, disregarding the whole ethical thing, the reason why Rapture Fell was because there was a very big divide beetween the workers and the people. (Also because Plasmids were not regulated and the poor became addicted)

    And since there was no social housing and stuff, they Protested, and then joined Sofia Lamb, who was appealing to them

    So, its more of a mix of the people going insane without ethical restrictions, the consumers going insane because of addiction, and a bunch of people dying because of protests by the workers

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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    I think it’s kind of a logical conclusion to science and technology when not constrained by ethics, morality or other regulations aimed at safety as one would find in a Libertarian’s wet dream. It might not be superpowered mutants, but more like human experimentation like the Nazis did or nuclear weapons that go boom when you don’t want them to because you’re being careless about safety.

    Also, wasn’t the true downfall of the city more because of the power struggle between Atlas and Ryan? There is a whole subplot about the class war happening in the city along with a rebellion, but I haven’t played it in so long I don’t recall all the details. Ot if that even matters because didnt they turn out to be the same guy just manipulating you? 🤔

    Fuck. Gonna make me play through Bioshock again.

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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      Libertarian’s wet dream

      Please don’t conflate Objectivism and Libertarianism. They’re different, and Ayn Rand hated Libertarians. Objectivism is all about selfishness (maximize personal benefit), whereas Libertarianism is all about minimizing harm between people (initiation of force, NAP).

      Let’s use an example of someone creating a dangerous product and someone gets hurt. An Objectivist would say “oops!” whereas the Libertarian would say the seller should be legally liable for damages and criminally liable if they knew about the danger and didn’t properly disclose/prevent it, otherwise it’s an initiation of force.

      Objectivists believe in maximum freedom. Libertarians believe your freedoms end where mine begin. They’re different.