(Posting this at 01:41 after a very, very full week and with flubrain: take considered potentially faulty on delivery)

I’ve often thought about this specific problem part, and i gotta admit I’m pre-conflicted. Due aforementioned note I haven’t read the license yet (I’ll do in the week and post a reply with thoughts) but from what I’ve observed to date:

• only certain kinds/sets of corps appear to give a damn about licensing
• even if one initiates legal action against the offenders, they’re typically banking on financial asymmetry first and inter-area regulatory friction second

And ito a policy having defensive teeth, those are two load bearing pillars that turn out to not even be moth eaten wooden beams but instead rice crispies held together in a sugar glaze

Consider: what if some popular projects had a “if you’re using this in something making >= $thresholdOrPortionCalc, you must support the project with $percentageOfRevenue” clause in licensing? Modulo the payment distribution admit (lol @ modern aml nightmare), would help a ton with the open source funding squeeze. But can you imagine the bleeting (and probably parasitic forking) if that started happening?

Put another way: without copyright and IP reform (into what shape I have only vague suggestions), how far do licenses get us?

(I’m sorry if this sounds extremely negative -afaict with current regulatory climates and where-IP-is-at, it’s the broadstrokes view. Icbw in detail (I expect I am at least in some detail). But I want to be wrong because god this all fucking sucks)

vscodium isn’t immune to the problem tbh - put it behind a gating proxy (mitmproxy or something is probably easiest) and watch just how chatty it still is (for plugin mechanism etc)

the entire design of how the vscode ecocystem is put together is in service of their telemetry aims, imo. they may argue it’s “for safety” or whatever, but it’s just control and surveillance. alternative options that don’t do this shit exist and operate just fine

the posting account for that comment looks like such a hollow shell… real from-outta-left-field shit

why’s that name familiar? calibre?

please enjoy the calibre dev repeatedly stepping on rakes that smack him in the face when multiple computer security professionals showed him 10+(!) severe vulnerabilities in a setuid root mount program nobody asked for that he implemented for frankly fucked personal reasons over the strong objections of his own community

I’d heard of these but never looked into it (hadn’t needed to), opened now and saw who the bug was reported by. imagine getting that report from that source and then your first answer is to start arguing

double up that multiple distros going back older than that report have had support for automatic user mount systems (and that calibre could’ve just used that)… goddamn

recently I ran into the term “outsider programming” and I really like it as a frame for the kind of inexpert contributors (driveby or otherwise) that you get in a project like calibre, people who just trying to make their own little thing work as best they can - you could look at e.g. the code for the dedrm plugin if you want some examples of this. but then you also get whatever the fuck goyal is doing here, which is … far the other way

at time of this post, 542 comments. I have barely gotten to scroll yet

I’m not really sure how far that’ll go, tbh. a couple of dipshits will gripe on the orange site but I can’t see this becoming any real kind of wailing flashpoint - largely because I don’t think that most of those clowns even have any idea that the psf exists and even less what it is they do

this isn’t an episode of TNG and I’m not a cardassian interrogator, there definitely were two questions

Funny enough, I saw it was 18 minutes and tossed it over to Gemini to summarize.

“funny enough”? why?

“tossed it over to gemini”? again, why?

yeah I was grimacing at the partlist, but I think I’d still do it

I haven’t meaningfully touched lego in like 15y and haven’t engaged with basically any of the starwars-y or latter-decades kits at all. but for this… it’d make a hell of a sweet display piece

I said “He doesn’t need a felony he doesn’t need a cell There’s gotta be a way to get him headed for some help.” He said “Programs exist but none of them work It’s either charge him with the crime or feed him back to the earth.” That’s the bleakest shit I ever heard

goddamn

you drifted in out of nowhere, made a completely zero-effort thing your first post with literally no useful contribution of your own, and now appear to be going “waaaaaaagh why don’t you like me” about the consequences

pro-tip: don’t

ayyy new aesop rock

this is going to be listened to immediately

and yet you posted it willingly

I wasn’t aware of the licensing terms - that immediately drops my opinion of it too. I was thinking about looking into it (soon.gif, due spoons) to see if I could make a run-your-own-nightshade deployable for people, but I guess that’s off the table now

as to effectiveness: as I’ve said elsewhere, the genie is out of the bottle. unless this shit gets (toothfully) regulated out of existence (and that might be impossible for a variety of reasons), I fear that it’s going to become a similar arms race as spam, and there will continue to be a tug-of-war for a while.

gutfeel, it strikes me that the (current) biggest hope is that the models themselves not only fail at providing but don’t really have a path to achieving that either, so it’s mostly a case of how long VCs can fund the hype. from previous cycles it looks like that spans 2~5y windows. at the point the hype funding runs out, this stuff will significantly lose traction even though it won’t disappear entirely just yet.

damn large amount of damage that’ll happen in

that’s encouraging to hear

a number other nix-users I’d spoken to before always seemed to do shit with the C++ etc as well but they always did that with everything so I couldn’t tell if it were choice or requirement

guess I’ll have to get some round tuits to spend

has nix managed to move their tooling off the old perl and C codebases as yet? I looked at it a long while back because the idea of nix interests me but I just didn’t have the spoons to deal with that at the time

(yes I’ve had this tab open until now (mostly because of said insufficient spoons for a few few weeks))