ExoticCherryPigeon

Parental controls already exist in linux, they are entirely optional to those who want them, we do not need those controls to be rolled out to every user!

Not to mention

• My router, an Asus one has parental controls settings already
• My ISP router, bog standard one has parental controls settings already
• My ISP account has parental controls settings already at account level, if Ia m not technical enough, I can call them and ask them to set it up
• My phone provider has parental controls

It is slippery, I have described the process UK is taken here https://piefed.social/comment/10693725

There are already parental control packages exist in the Linux infrastructure which are not tied to low level modules such as systemd https://github.com/biglinux/big-parental-controls if you want, you can install it. Its fork is available in the Arch ecosystem for example that mentions it complies with the BR implementation (https://github.com/jersobh/arch-parental-controls)

• This is entirely optional package that claims to be privacy orientated (I haven’t tried it) that a system administrator can install if they wish.
• My router, an Asus one has parental controls settings already
• My ISP router, bog standard one has parental controls settings already
• My ISP account has parental controls settings already at account level, if Ia m not technical enough, I can call them and ask them to set it up
• My phone provider has parental controls

Why do I need MORE parental controls shoved down my throat when I do not desire it nor wish for it? But this time in a core component of alot of linux distributions.

Oh and before you tell me “but ExoticCherryPigeon, its an optional field”, sure, but here is the example of the slippery slope curtsey of UK:

Take a look at the history of this act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_age_verification_in_the_United_Kingdom
We are now at the point where I need to use a CC to tell some 3rd party that I want a wank.

And what else is happening now? They are suing websites not based in UK! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Safety_Act_2023#Enforcement, but that’s not all, although not at the law stage, there are some talks about also now restricting VPN’s https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/uk-government-says-it-may-age-restrict-or-limit-childrens-vpn-use-following-new-consultation.

A lot of websites also not based in UK jurisdiction have simply self censored UK users before they get ISP level blocked.

If this is not an example of a slippery slope, I don’t know what is!

TL;DR tools already exist, we do not need more tools that will be a privacy nightmare

How is it different? The ready acceptance of additional fields specifically for age verification is clearly proof enough that any further bullshit will be accepted just as quickly. PR description clearly outlines it is for the sole purpose of age verification…

Its not suitable for proving your age. Its adding a field which is a stepping stone to future gating and more control over something that isn’t even applicable to most of the users of the system.

Why not then add a live filter to ensure that you don’t call Putler’s war in Ukraine and call it “SVO” as you are supposed to? Its the law over there and many years older than this one. People already have gone to prison for not complying with it. But hey lets make that a part of linux too. Its law after all… Do you see how stupid it is to blindly comply to something that doesn’t even apply to you?

Poettering closed the pr that was reverting this age field. What happens is adding more and more control in the future to conform to whatever idiotic laws someone might make. Should we then also implement a filter for what you type online to conform with Russian law about calling their war “SVO”? Its their law after all, so why not make the rest of the world conform? Its already years older then this age verification?

Except this field has been implemented explicitly for this age verification laws. If this was for some random birthday greeting when you open terminal, i think fewer people would be up in arms. context is everything.

if this moron implements compliance with laws that record a birthday today, what is stopping him adding 3rd party verification of id tomorrow? So far his track record is corporate bootlicker. You cannot trust projects where this guy is a contributer to

Continent Thank you yes

It’s not just one law (/statute). Around a third of a billion and increasing, seems a strange quantity to dismiss as “so few people in the world”. EU alone has more population than the affected regions by a few hundred million. Why should we be putting up with this nonsense in advance? This is absolutely wrong and how does this get affected by our GDPR laws? Please don’t forget that not everyone lives in a complete technocratic dystopia and we place more value on certain protections. Trying to predict when the next ludicrous right wing nonces will win and try to put through their own child molesting agendas in EU seems premature.

How long until USA becomes the new Noth Korea where you can only get 28 state sanctioned haircuts? Should we comply with this requirement too? You know its only a matter of time isn’t it? (If sarcasm is not clear, I apologise for nothing)

Its only one state, the rest of the world for now still have some fucking sense. If anything its disproportionate to appease a local government with global systems, whats next? Appease North Korea? Or Putin? Block Linux from working in Ukraine? How fucking insane is this dipshit to add changes to a global product for a thing that affects only 40m people out of fucking billions?

Fair enough that’s pretty surprising, so even Arch is not safe from lunatics… That is disappointing. As a Manjaro user, I am likely to pick up their changes via both systemd and since Manjaro is Arch based… Sad and disappointed by useful morons who have no fucking clue.

This law affects exactly 0 users on my entire content… So why do I need this nonsense? Even systemd change is bullshit and doesn’t affect me or anyone on my continent.

The law is completely not here, it affects very few people in the world, so they can bugger off with this nonsense change

This law affects so few people in the world, they can bugger off with their changes. No one on my entire content is affected by this stupidity.

I fully expect this person to not be even real and instead just another ai bot to push agenda for corporate scum

I keep hearing conflicting info on mullvard and sailing, do they block port forwarding? Which may affect seeding to some places? Like private… sailing seas? I am a bit unsure how this works, but if I am sailing for linux distros, I want to be able to seed them.