So why did you reply? lol

It’s literally the definition of a civil war.

No, it isn’t lmao. A huge number of people who fought against the CPC in the civil war went on to live in China afterwards. Some people switched sides. A civil war is fought for control over a country for many reasons, it’s not “a giant fucking war against people who were ready to die to prevent themselves from being part of” the country afterwards. The only reason to frame the Chinese Civil War like this other than ignorance is to soft-pedal glorification of or apologia for the KMT, painting them as some kind of popular resistance movement against the CPC.

Is the difference that ita colonialism if you need a boat to get there? Because I should point out Taiwan is an island.

“at least some of the differences”

And this would be that cherrypicking I mentioned. I don’t fault that, because every method is cherrypicking, because there isn’t a “true” or “best” system.

I’m not advocating a true or best system, this is a thread about the hypocrisy of an American nationalist on twitter. However, if you think that the Chinese Civil War wasn’t vastly “better” than colonialism (the comparison you seem to insist on making, for some reason), I think we have very little to say to each other.

China as it is now was formed by having a giant fucking war against people who were ready to die to prevent themselves from being part of China as it is now. Just like pretty much every other country in all of history.

This is an extremely strange way to describe the Chinese Civil War and the Second Sino-Japanese War. At best reductive in the extreme and at worst comically misleading.

The difference between china (and pretty much every other country in Europe and Asia) and the is that those wars were at least mostly fought by people who actually lived there.

OK, so you do understand at least some of the differences between civil war and settler colonialism.

My point is, you can’t just say “this country is X years old”, because it almost never is, and it always depends on cherry picking. You can say Germany turns 36 this year, or you can say it turns 1226. Italy was either created in 1946, or the 3600 years ago at the founding of Rome. China can start with the Zhou dynasty 3000 years ago, or with Mao 70 years ago.

You don’t seem to understand the concept of a nation and are mixing it up with the concept of a state.

A nation is a historically constituted, stable community of people, formed on the basis of a common language, territory, economic life, and psychological make-up manifested in a common culture.

• Joseph Stalin, Marxism and the National Question.

The Chinese nation is unquestionably older than any European or North American nation embodied in the current European and North American states, because there is unquestionably a Chinese culture that can be traced from those previous polities, which considered themselves Chinese. Even just considering a Chinese state/independent polity it would be ridiculous to say that it was founded 70 years ago. On the other hand, it’s trivial to tell that the oldest possible date for the founding of America is very recent by comparison, so the person in the twitter screenshot is obviously a hypocrite, which is the whole point of the post.

None of those are completely true, and yet they aren’t entirely wrong either. Thats why these maps are stupid. Proclaiming your state to be the best because some people had a state where yours now is is pretty dumb.

So you do understand the point of the post.

And ALL of them got where they are by killing people who didn’t want to be part of their state. Every single one.

You’ve reduced all the complexities of history to a single sentence which serves only to obscure the crimes of settler-colonialism.

The US has been evil since pretty much always

Same for China

Same for Russia

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lmao

Have you ever heard the term “critical support”? Resistance doesn’t need to be perfect to be valid. Read “Perfect Victims” by Mohammed El-Kurd.

They pursue a deliberate strategy of killing and kidnapping civilians.

They “kidnap” civilians (among also many military members) in an attempt to do prisoner exchanges in response to a much more large-scale strategy of the same employed by “Israel”. Unlike “Israel” they are working with few resources and very little intelligence data, so it’s not surprising their actions aren’t always surgically precise (whereas “Israel”, of course, constantly target civilians deliberately).

And their disastrous political and military strategy was a large contributor to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Gazans over the past several years.

Literally victim blaming, lol. You’re not only assuming that they could have predicted the exact course of events (including the scale of their success in Al-Aqsa flood and the scale of the “Israeli” response), but softly absolving the actual perpetrators of much of the blame. There is one and only one party responsible for this and for all other violence within Palestine since 1948. That’s what colonialism is.

I usually try not to criticize them because such criticisms are being used to justify genocide

Yeah, they are.

If that’s your impression of what Hamas is, you are either severely misinformed or you harbor racial/religious bias. I’m assuming it’s the former, so I will let you know that that is not an accurate description of Hamas. If you are interested in finding out more about them, you should read their updated charter from 2017.

It could be seen as a tankie post about muricans still having more freedom of speech vs russians. Thats how I saw it, because it was crossposted from tankie-land.

OK, so you read the comment completely, objectively wrong (the truncheon says “visa ban” on it, visa bans are imposed by other countries) because you turned off your ability to connect basic concepts when you saw the “tankie-land” word.

1. This comic was drawn before this happened, I think.
2. How is this related? The comic is about the international reaction towards Americans and Russians, not the domestic government reaction to protesters against these things.

I am genuinely baffled. This is completely unrelated to the point of the comic or to it being possible to cross-post from Hexbear.

What do you mean by this, lmao?