It wasn’t, but that time America was not an active participant in the game. They were amongst those trying to provide aid to Gaza (or atleast that was the official stance).

WTF? They built a pier off the shore of Gaza that lasted less than a week and airdropped a few crates of food. This is entirely outweighed by the unconditional support of the Israeli government’s genocide. They provided everything Israel ever wanted and never made an actual ultimatum to Netanyahu’s government. They absolutely were active participants (in fact, the main instigators).

The abhorrent behaviour of Trump government is a radically opposite stand. Concentrating the people at aid centers, by taking advantage of their hunger, and then nake them sitting ducks.

This did get a lot of media coverage in early 2025 but AFAIK it’s not exactly unprecedented and Israel had already been doing similar things in the early stages of the operation post Oct 7th. At the very least, it’s hard to say whether these tactics, as cruel and horrifying as they are, were any more lethal than what they were already doing for a year before that.

How one appreciates the good poorly, until the real bad arrives

Was the Biden administration before Trump’s good even after more than a year of genocide in Palestine?

Casually erasing communists from that list, cool.

You’re so preoccupied with your knee jerk anticommunism that you’re doing revisionist, apologist history for the Reagan administration. Was Reagan doing what he thought was the best for the people when participating in the Iran Contra affair? Come on, the US is a country that has always operated to secure its own imperialist hegemony since it became a global super power. Every single government since the start of the Cold War has operated to do that by any means necessary, even committing genocide and propping up fascist regimes worldwide.

You mean the people who kept threatening people with nukes? The people who proliferated atomic weapons giga? The ones who did 56 military interventions (old figure btw, doesn’t include Venezuela, for example) in South America post WW2? The one that proliferated military bases all across the world? The Bay of Pigs people? The ones that invaded Vietnam because they were bored? The people who made North Korea the most bombed place ever? Coup in Guatemala so that bananas were cheap? The people who would rather destroy civilization than coexist with the USSR? You’re saying that system worked relatively well? I’m saying that they were barbaric up to and through current events.

From @WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net

It’s not legal to be critical of the state of Israel in a general sense in Germany, at least. You can be jailed for comparing Israel to the Nazis, for calling for the dissolution of the state of Israel, or for various other anti-Zionist positions. I mean, here’s Ursula Von Der Leyen telling protesters ‘in Russia you would be arrested’ while they were actively being arrested for their political position.

Meanwhile, I read criticism of Chinese foreign policy all the time. @QinShiHuangsShlong@hexbear.net, @CloutAtlas@hexbear.net, @Flyberius@hexbear.net and @xiaohongshu@hexbear.net are Hexbear accounts that are users from China who post about their criticisms of Chinese foreign policy.

Okay, thank you, I don’t know why it was necessary to drag the thread out for so many comments to get a source out of you when I was upfront with the sources I used to justify my original claims.

I’ll have to peruse through the sources cited there tomorrow, sadly I’m a little busy right now.

Okay, so it’s not a quote? It’s just information from your mind? Can you tell me what the source of the information was?

No, I’m willing to admit that what China did is really horrible and can rightfully justify putting them as Darth Vader in the meme. I’m saying that Europe doesn’t get to be Luke.

This string exists in your comment:

Weird way to write “being repressed, being subject to forced labour, ideological and political “reeducation”, being restricted in exercising their religious beliefs to the point of muslim names being prohibited, being subject to abuse and internment, etc. pp, all that to degrees where several experts classify CCPs course against Uighurs in Xinjiang as a genocide.”

The 19th character of that string is ". The last character is also a ". Where I come from we call that a quote.

Removed by mod

Where’s that quote from?

Yeah, you’re actually right about that. China has a bad track record of supporting genocidal governments in SEA, like with the Khmer Rouge.

The scale of the genocide in Gaza is much larger than the Rohingya genocide, though, so it’s still inappropriate to call Europe the “good side” as compared to China.

Removed by mod

Quite a few. Does that make them culpable for a genocide?

Europe provided at least 30%^[1] of the foreign weapons used in the genocide in Gaza. China provided 0. Why is Europe the good side?