The initial premis of the argument that I replied to was questioning why people who were born in the U.S. are entitled to something that those who are not born in the U.S. are not.
I’m all for net tax payers entering the U.S. through legal routes. Methods that protect the immigrant from exploitation from employers.
We don’t live in a world of abundance, abundance is a goal of humanity, were not there yet; and we don’t get there by printing money out of thin air and handing it out.
The government has no problem handing out hundreds of billions to ICE and the Pentagon - there absolutely is enough.
Billions of dollars is pennies compares what would be required to put the world on welfare, and those billions remove criminals and those preying on.l the generosity of our country.
There’s absolutely limited resources, specifically concernin what the government has the capability of handing out.
Unfortunately we have to think about “what’s in it for us?” If the answer is another mouth to put on welfare and medicaid then… Why?..
The US had open borders for most of its history
Just because a social program worked in past doesn’t mean it will work in the future. Hell, just because a social program worked in another country doesn’t mean it will work in this country.
We can’t have people just coming in and immediately qualifying for government assistance. As selfish as it sounds people shouldn’t come into any country with the expectation of economic assistance. The U.S. is not the world’s welfare program; it cannot afford it.
Of course, I would want reciprocity. I would support signing mutual open border agreements with poorer countries.
There’s literally zero incentive for a poorer country to sign this agreement with a richer country.
Many of the poor countries intelligent, productive population leave, and basically no one from the rich country have any incentive to move to the poor country.
Because we have limited resources and a country definitionally priorities its citizens over foreigners. If it doesn’t; then you basically no longer have citizens, you just have inhabitants.
Trafficked women and children be like… HELP
Drug couriers be like… THANKS
Terrorists be like…EASY
Viagra will kill the shit out of you if you have a heart attack and the emergency room gives you nitroglycerin.
Well. Maybe you don’t die, but it won’t have the intended effect.
Now show me a map of Somalia after it’s no longer subsidized by Minnesota.
I would love reform. Any changes that get smart productive people into the U.S. would only help us.
At the same time dont you feel it harms foreign countries? We’re literally brain draining other countries keeping them in poverty or preventing them from developing.