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    You may laugh, but if even some best example of democracy has the people in such a dire situation, they for sure aren’t laughing

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      The best example of democracy is the happiest most well cared for people on earth.

      The best example of an anarchy is Myanmar (at least before the 2021 coup) and has common people living like medieval peasants while the elite treat it as the world’s most expensive resort location, while also being manipulated by China in proxy aggression with India.

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        If that is your view on true happiness and being well cared for, then what is the point of anything. Slavery with extra steps

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          My view on true happiness is that happiness is good and the system that creates the most happiness with the least suffering is the best system.

          I’m having trouble understanding which part of that you oppose. Is it your opinion that there should be less happiness total or that all happiness should cost equal or greater suffering?

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            My view is that a system based on harm, suffering, exploitation and oppression causes an unjust ceiling to the available happiness

            Edit: not even a subjective view, that’s how it actually is

            Progress is blocked arbitrarily by sticking to “it’s not that bad somewhere” thinking

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              The system that demonstrably has the least suffering is built upon suffering? How do you figure?

              It’s like I’m arguing with Bizarro Superman.

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                Let’s put it this way: Why do you want the system to cause even that amount of suffering when it doesn’t need to be mandatory at all

                Edit I see the reply talking in circles just two comments apart. Unbelievable Epstein/capitalist apologia