In the defense of leftists, though, I feel obligated to point out that this is a very commonly cited example of why ‘Vanguard’ parties made up of small groups of elites who are sure THEY know how to get to socialism (unlike the UNWASHED MASSES) are untrustworthy.
When socialism arrives, it’ll arrive by the people’s hands, not against their will.
Those bastards aren’t real communists and never were. Do not allow traitorous autocrats to redefine what communism means. They are traitors to the cause, nothing more.
Same goes for tankies of all flavors. Such as ML tankies.
Those are not communism. At all. An autocrat using the language of communism is not communism.
If I say I’m a gay fish, does that make me a gay fish? If no, then some dumbass country led by a ruler that you often cannot question, is by definition not communist, no matter what they call themselves.
It works the same way how capitalism is the pathway to fascism. If you give people a government structure that allows them to consolidate and abuse power, they will do so because humans are shitbirds. This is basic humanity 101.
I mean, they are traitors to the cause, but other than how hilarious it is to call them out as indistinguishable from right-wing bootlickers except for their team colors… at some point, we do have to accept that there are fucking lunatics who are in broad alignment with our goals. Such is unavoidable in any ideology.
MLs do, nominally, want communism. In the same way that both mercantilists and alchemists want gold - only one has a realistic conception of how to get there, while the other is busy chanting magic formulae and blindly following superstitious cults, but they are both definitely gold bugs.
In that sense, I don’t begrudge them the shared usage of the word ‘Communist’, especially considering the widespread usage during the SovUnion’s existence - so long as we can emphasize that their red-painted fascist lunacy is not the only ‘Communism’.
And leftists are still stupid enough to trust commies today.
It happens far too often, certainly true.
In the defense of leftists, though, I feel obligated to point out that this is a very commonly cited example of why ‘Vanguard’ parties made up of small groups of elites who are sure THEY know how to get to socialism (unlike the UNWASHED MASSES) are untrustworthy.
When socialism arrives, it’ll arrive by the people’s hands, not against their will.
Yep, who watches the watchmen. And what does the vanguard guard. Two of the more important questions never asked.
Obligatory ML aren’t communist and never will be. And it pisses them off to no end when it’s pointed out. 😆
Those bastards aren’t real communists and never were. Do not allow traitorous autocrats to redefine what communism means. They are traitors to the cause, nothing more.
Same goes for tankies of all flavors. Such as ML tankies.
When we can find a single instance of communism that didn’t devolve into an auth hellscape I’ll believe you.
Those are not communism. At all. An autocrat using the language of communism is not communism.
If I say I’m a gay fish, does that make me a gay fish? If no, then some dumbass country led by a ruler that you often cannot question, is by definition not communist, no matter what they call themselves.
It works the same way how capitalism is the pathway to fascism. If you give people a government structure that allows them to consolidate and abuse power, they will do so because humans are shitbirds. This is basic humanity 101.
I mean, they are traitors to the cause, but other than how hilarious it is to call them out as indistinguishable from right-wing bootlickers except for their team colors… at some point, we do have to accept that there are fucking lunatics who are in broad alignment with our goals. Such is unavoidable in any ideology.
MLs do, nominally, want communism. In the same way that both mercantilists and alchemists want gold - only one has a realistic conception of how to get there, while the other is busy chanting magic formulae and blindly following superstitious cults, but they are both definitely gold bugs.
In that sense, I don’t begrudge them the shared usage of the word ‘Communist’, especially considering the widespread usage during the SovUnion’s existence - so long as we can emphasize that their red-painted fascist lunacy is not the only ‘Communism’.
What is your political belief system?
Your mom.
So… we’re just getting an empty criticism of communism without being given a reference of what a “better” belief system may look like.
mkay.
Socialism.
Why do you think socialism is better than communism?
… dad? Is that you?