• IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works
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    2 years ago

    The analogy kind of falls apart since she is not limited to this guy and Chad. She’s free to choose nothing at all. With Trump vs Biden, there’s no viable third option, and having no president is not one of the options. So the “Trump is worse” argument becomes viable simply because you do have to choose one of them.

    • OfCourseNot@fedia.io
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      2 years ago

      Using the trolley problem as an analogy, if you don’t pull the lever the people run over by it are not your fault but the trolley company’s, but if you do pull the lever the death of the guy on the other tracks is absolutely on you.

      I assume you voted for Biden last election, to avoid the trolley running over the people in that proverbial track. Congratulations, you are guilty of murdering all those Palestinian children. Now, next election, if (when) Trump wins, your vote even for Biden is what gives legitimacy to his presidency.

      • Kashif Shah@lemmy.sdf.org
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        2 years ago

        After that news on research that a Trump victory would likely spell the end of NATO, don’t be surprised if the rightists starts to see this election as being about ending NATO and withdrawing from the UN.

        Typical right-wing goals that maybe leftists don’t appreciate the strength of conviction that the hard-liners have.

        That (and the obvious social conservative goals) are the only legitimacy that Drumpf really has.

        edit: also, Trump trumped Biden on the Palestenian genocide when he moved the Israeli embassy. i’m sure that that emboldened Netanyahu to press even harder rightwards. Now look at it.

        • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
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          2 years ago

          ending NATO

          But an end to NATO would be an unambiguously good thing. It has literally never fought a defensive war in its history and the places its invaded and bombed are still hurting decades later.

          withdrawing from the UN.

          A UN where the US couldn’t veto a hundred demands for peace in Palestine, backed by threat of sanctions is also an unambiguously good thing.

          If I genuinely believed Trump would bring about a peaceful dismantling of the American Empire, I’d have to campaign for him.

    • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      2 years ago

      Continue with that analogy. What would happen if that woman had no other option. Should she choose the nice guy, the chad or object to the choice being fostered upon her and choose nobody? And if she’s paired anyway with that person, should she then act as if it was her choice, or take actions to disengage from that person and destroy the system that caused these turn of events?

      • Pennomi@lemmy.worlddeleted by creator
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        2 years ago

        You can tactically vote for Biden to avoid Trump and still take actions to dismantle the system.

        • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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          2 years ago

          So the woman in our scenario should decide to choose the “Nice Guy” tactically?

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            2 years ago

            If the woman in the scenario is going to be stuck with the nice guy or Donald Trump, then yes she should tactically choose the guy who isn’t an unapologetic rapist. She can influence the nice guy’s behavior, and avoid the horror of Trump. She does not have to condone or accept the nice guy’s bullshit behavior, and there will be a future.

  • grue@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    A woman has the legitimate choice to go out with a third guy or nobody. We do not have a legitimate choice of anybody but Biden or Trump for president. One of the two will be chosen.

    This meme is stupid and amounts to pro-fascist propaganda.