(…continued from previous message above)
You have to really work to seek them out if you’re in the west for both the obvious reasons of locale and access as well as the fact that the system you live with in really doesn’t want you listening to those who aren’t them. Do you seek them out anyway?
Or do you just say they’re astroturfing [side note: lol, like China has people astroturfing for them on a niche reddit clone made by “tankies” (ideologically consistent communists, but Eglin Airforce base isn’t all over that shit. Give me a break, don’t be so absurd, don’t make such a joke out of yourself, seriously!] or say that they’re bOtS! Then shut down and call it a day? Because you can do that too. I mean… that is what you did. Can you do better?
The time I spent writing this may well have been wasted on you (though obviously I hope not, my advice was sincere). But even if so, I know other people will be reading this, including people who still vehemently disagree with me, but my time wasn’t wasted because for one, it’s always good for a writer to write, maybe especially when doing so is unpleasant. But also because I always have hope that when someone reads something written with authenticity of belief and sincerity of feeling, and they provide valid points on top, that it becomes almost certain that seeds have been planted in the thoughtful reader. Might take years for those seeds to germinate, but such a thing did happen for many of us who eventually did arrive at this position, after certain seeds grew, a position which is not an easy one to reach though, considering the constant struggle against endless western propaganda, flailing libs shutting down conversations of course, and all the reading, reading, reading. But those potential seeds that find their way into the lurkers who think about what they read, imo that is reason enough to comment, even when responding to someone who has chosen to close down their own mind. It may not be original to u/Cowbee, but around these parts, it’s those kind of sentiments among others like gentle but powerful persuasion that I think rightfully get called @Cowbee@lemmy.ml thought. He is nowhere near as boring or overly-verbose or rambly or addled as me and he’s much more prolific and well-read, so if you want more details but fewer text walls, or if you think you have what it takes to argue with the most patient of all the tankies (not to mention one hell of a smart comrade), then stalk his /u/ page and also check out his reading list to read the real tankies (ie, the most illuminating thinkers and practitioners of leftist thought and praxis).
(…continued from previous message above) You have to really work to seek them out if you’re in the west for both the obvious reasons of locale and access as well as the fact that the system you live with in really doesn’t want you listening to those who aren’t them. Do you seek them out anyway?
Or do you just say they’re astroturfing [side note: lol, like China has people astroturfing for them on a niche reddit clone made by “tankies” (ideologically consistent communists, but Eglin Airforce base isn’t all over that shit. Give me a break, don’t be so absurd, don’t make such a joke out of yourself, seriously!] or say that they’re bOtS! Then shut down and call it a day? Because you can do that too. I mean… that is what you did. Can you do better?
The time I spent writing this may well have been wasted on you (though obviously I hope not, my advice was sincere). But even if so, I know other people will be reading this, including people who still vehemently disagree with me, but my time wasn’t wasted because for one, it’s always good for a writer to write, maybe especially when doing so is unpleasant. But also because I always have hope that when someone reads something written with authenticity of belief and sincerity of feeling, and they provide valid points on top, that it becomes almost certain that seeds have been planted in the thoughtful reader. Might take years for those seeds to germinate, but such a thing did happen for many of us who eventually did arrive at this position, after certain seeds grew, a position which is not an easy one to reach though, considering the constant struggle against endless western propaganda, flailing libs shutting down conversations of course, and all the reading, reading, reading. But those potential seeds that find their way into the lurkers who think about what they read, imo that is reason enough to comment, even when responding to someone who has chosen to close down their own mind. It may not be original to u/Cowbee, but around these parts, it’s those kind of sentiments among others like gentle but powerful persuasion that I think rightfully get called @Cowbee@lemmy.ml thought. He is nowhere near as boring or overly-verbose or rambly or addled as me and he’s much more prolific and well-read, so if you want more details but fewer text walls, or if you think you have what it takes to argue with the most patient of all the tankies (not to mention one hell of a smart comrade), then stalk his /u/ page and also check out his reading list to read the real tankies (ie, the most illuminating thinkers and practitioners of leftist thought and praxis).