• echo@lemmy.today
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    3 days ago

    Did I say slightly right or are you moving the goal posts? Yeah, you’re moving the goal posts. Be accountable. Hold others accountable - especially family.

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      you initiated the reply with a goalpost move what did you expect it to be ignored? Either way I think you are trolling me so I’m disengaging.

      For context on their claim(which I had edited prior to their comment as it didn’t really matter to the post): My original reply stated that just because someone is slightly right doesn’t mean they molest kids. It had no place in the comment as it doesn’t matter the reason: Politics have zero place at family time.

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        you initiated the reply with a goalpost move

        I did no such thing. I said hold your fucking family accountable. Not doing so just because it “ruins thanksgiving dinner” is a piss-poor excuse. It’s this playing nice with family members that allows them to continue comfortably being racists and/or pedophiles. Quit enabling them.

        Politics have zero place at family time.

        This is the most important time. When the fuck else are you going to do it? Jesus fucking christ, hold your family accountable for not being awful people. If you fail to do that then you, too, are an awful person. Maybe you didn’t know that before, but now you do and you have no further excuse.

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          for not being awful people

          I think you meant “for being awful people”.

          If I am correct, and that is what you meant, I agree with your sentiment that family time is the most important and useful time to hold family accountable, and that holding family accountable is a moral imperative.

          I did no such thing [a goalpost move].

          I won’t deny that American conservatism protects pedophiles. But you equated conservatism with committing direct molestation of a child, which was a goalpost move.

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            I think you meant “for being awful people”.

            I stated it weirdly, but you got the intent.

            I won’t deny that American conservatism protects pedophiles. But you equated conservatism with committing direct molestation of a child, which was a goalpost move.

            No, I stated that people allow pedophilia to continue out of deference to keeping the peace within the family. I did not say maga == pedophiles. Refusing to have difficult conversations with family members to hold them accountable allows the bad behavior to continue without challenge or consequence.

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              I did not say that MAGA == pedophiles.

              It reads as though you implied it when you said “everything is fine even if Uncle Steve is diddling your daughter (or son)” sardonically. But yes, you didn’t say it outright. And yes, I agree that MAGA condones pedophilia.

              Refusing to have difficult conversations with family members to hold them accountable allows the bad behavior to continue without challenge or consequence.

              You have my complete agreement on this point.