What do you think the Azov Nazis were up to in Donbass? Do you think that banning the Russian language (which is many Ukrainians’ first language) in Ukraine is a good idea?
What @Caves_of_steel@lemmy.world said, but also: there is no language ban. You’re not getting arrested for speaking russian anywhere in Ukraine, including Kyiv.
What’s banned is russian work news, films, shows, books, etc. And, again, that’s only in Kyiv.
I dont think your sources proo what you think they do ‘An Amnesty International investigation into allegations of execution-style and other deliberate killings by pro-Russian separatists and pro-Kyiv forces has found evidence of isolated incidents attributable to both sides, but not on the scale reported by Russian media and authorities.’
Literally the first sentence
The only example about ukrainians crimes is the graves of 5 seperatist crimes - an inixdent in which Sergey lavrow claimes ‘mass graves’ of ‘400’‘women’.
The first article is Form 2023 well after the russian Invasion started (and butcha) and the ban was only in the capital - not a Region with majority russian speaking ukrainians - its fairly obvious why you would want to know if people are ukrainians Ehen you are in a war …
You seem confused. I don’t think any of that, and I don’t see where I gave any indication that I did. I know that Russia and Ukraine are both full of racists. I’m annoyed by the fact that all these redditors have such a cartoon-level view of this conflict.
I’m not confused. These questions outline the absurdity of “bUt AzOV!!”
Do you think military units consist of the same people what like 80 years later? Do you think they categorize military units by personal belief? It’s an absurd thing to say and it’s a complete whataboutism meant to derail.
People who try to say this have one goal – justifying the invasion and attempted cultural erasure of the Ukrainian people. It’s a disgusting, ignorant and pathetic argument that either makes you a Russian shill or a complete absolute fool. It’s your decision which you wanna be or just learn from it and don’t try to use such silly arguments which do nothing but detract from a discussion and label you as a moron.
Discussing the history of Ukraine is different than justifying this attempt by Russia to destroy them. If we’re judging countries by their history as worthiness to destroy them then that’s not a conversation Russia will come out on top.
Ukraine is a sovereign nation that deserves to decide their future. They are not a puppet state, they have done nothing to deserve this attempted destruction of their culture. Justifying it is pathetic as fuck.
Ah so you also have a cartoon-level understanding of this. Unsurprising. It’s not just Azov though, BTW. Ukrainian national heroes largely comprise Nazi collaborators. Still (resurgently) actively celebrated. It’s even giving the Poles some mixed feelings.
Is Ukraine doing anything on the list of things that would make it a genocide? No, I didn’t think they were. Go suck putin chode somewhere else.
What do you think the Azov Nazis were up to in Donbass? Do you think that banning the Russian language (which is many Ukrainians’ first language) in Ukraine is a good idea?
They were fighting russian military.
It wasn’t banned.
Try reading something that’s not russian propaganda for a change.
https://www.dw.com/en/kyiv-imposes-ban-on-russian-language-culture/a-66301913
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2014/10/eastern-ukraine-conflict-summary-killings-misrecorded-and-misreported/
Both of these sources are well within the western propaganda sphere, so certain concessions are notable.
What @Caves_of_steel@lemmy.world said, but also: there is no language ban. You’re not getting arrested for speaking russian anywhere in Ukraine, including Kyiv.
What’s banned is russian work news, films, shows, books, etc. And, again, that’s only in Kyiv.
I dont think your sources proo what you think they do ‘An Amnesty International investigation into allegations of execution-style and other deliberate killings by pro-Russian separatists and pro-Kyiv forces has found evidence of isolated incidents attributable to both sides, but not on the scale reported by Russian media and authorities.’ Literally the first sentence The only example about ukrainians crimes is the graves of 5 seperatist crimes - an inixdent in which Sergey lavrow claimes ‘mass graves’ of ‘400’‘women’.
The first article is Form 2023 well after the russian Invasion started (and butcha) and the ban was only in the capital - not a Region with majority russian speaking ukrainians - its fairly obvious why you would want to know if people are ukrainians Ehen you are in a war …
This is such a dumb thing to say.
Do you think racists don’t exist in Russia? Do you think Soviet Russia was only good guys ever? Do you think Russia today is only good guys?
Absolutely pathetic argument
You seem confused. I don’t think any of that, and I don’t see where I gave any indication that I did. I know that Russia and Ukraine are both full of racists. I’m annoyed by the fact that all these redditors have such a cartoon-level view of this conflict.
I’m not confused. These questions outline the absurdity of “bUt AzOV!!”
Do you think military units consist of the same people what like 80 years later? Do you think they categorize military units by personal belief? It’s an absurd thing to say and it’s a complete whataboutism meant to derail.
People who try to say this have one goal – justifying the invasion and attempted cultural erasure of the Ukrainian people. It’s a disgusting, ignorant and pathetic argument that either makes you a Russian shill or a complete absolute fool. It’s your decision which you wanna be or just learn from it and don’t try to use such silly arguments which do nothing but detract from a discussion and label you as a moron.
Discussing the history of Ukraine is different than justifying this attempt by Russia to destroy them. If we’re judging countries by their history as worthiness to destroy them then that’s not a conversation Russia will come out on top.
Ukraine is a sovereign nation that deserves to decide their future. They are not a puppet state, they have done nothing to deserve this attempted destruction of their culture. Justifying it is pathetic as fuck.
Ah so you also have a cartoon-level understanding of this. Unsurprising. It’s not just Azov though, BTW. Ukrainian national heroes largely comprise Nazi collaborators. Still (resurgently) actively celebrated. It’s even giving the Poles some mixed feelings.
So we are judging a country by it’s heroes then? Okay.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_the_Terrible
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavrentiy_Beria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_the_Great
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_of_Russia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryno-Skachevsky_gang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexey_Milchakov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Vorobyov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Organization_of_Russian_Nationalists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Kapustin_(militant)
What a disgusting place. Kinda fucked up you support the genocide of Russians because of their racist and cruel history but who am i to judge
Yes, I’m happy to judge a country by its heroes.
Avarage ml bruh
Critical of the vibes-based circlejerk?
Critical of the Russian shill