• anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    12 days ago

    “The population rising up against authority and for social progress is clearly colonialism from beyond the force wall”, is certainly one of the takes of all time.

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      10 days ago

      you realize the main justification for colonialism was ‘we will bring our culture and values to these backwards societies’, right?

      it’s only social progress to you.

        • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
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          14 hours ago

          social progress is relative to the social goals.

          for a western society? yeah, for non-western societies? no.

          the problem is everyone assumes ‘society’ must believe in the western ideals of individualistic freedom. there is no reason it must or should.

          plenty of people have ideals that are not about freedom, they are about control. for those folks, gay civil rights are anti-progress.

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            7 hours ago

            “Local leftist decides that gay people shouldn’t have human rights because gay human rights don’t comport with the social progress related to non-western societies” is my favorite example of horseshoe theory in action. Please never break containment.