You didn’t say explicitly but strongly implied. I understand what you’re trying to say, I’ve thought about it more than you, and I’m not a raging bigot, so I’m rejecting the idea you’re having trouble articulating because you can’t make it sound not-evil even in your straw man that in no way resembles the actual thing.
Except that last part. That was me calling you a 14 year old who thinks Ayn rand was smart.
I mean I explicitly and strongly disagree with that synopsis for whatever it’s worth. In its most general sense it’s just an aspect of reality. A gazelle wanting to keep its life and a lion wanting to eat the gazelle. Group X wants something group Y doesn’t want to give. In a lot of circumstances it is evil but not all. Like conceptually this shouldn’t be a highly contested thing, it’s about as everyday as the sum rising and setting.
I’ll repeat what I’ve said. I brought up land and you said land doesn’t matter so to get the point across I moved on to something I think does matter to you personally. Of course to others their land is like their life and they are willing to kill and die for it, since you’re not currently in that circumstance I had to equate it to something.
I don’t think an ownership change of land is the same as the end of a life, no. The land remains.
No person I know owns land. My landlord is a corporation. Has always been a corporation.
I don’t think the feelings of colonizers count, matter, or are genuine. They’re all theatrical liars making shit up yo justify their racial supremacist and theocratic genocides. They would in nearly every case defile and destroy the thing rather than give it up, and that doesn’t sound like the thing is what’s important to them, but their fetishization and dominance of the thing.
I don’t think you could comprehend my value system if you tried, and I don’t think you have, or respect you enough to explain.
The world is big, just because you’re personally experiencing something doesn’t mean everyone else is having the same experience, that everyone lives in the same country, and so on. For instance Palestinians are willing to fight and die for their land even though the individuals don’t own all of the land, same for Ukrainians in Ukraine. It’s not like every last soldier owns all the land they are defending.
Those are both extermination wars where they previously ceded land and it didn’t stop the aggression.
They fight or they die. The Ukrainians could also run. You don’t know what you’re talking about, and are trying to fit real world situations to your bullshit. Call me when you’re old enough that the fact you still ‘date’ twelve year olds is creepy.
They could just run. I doubt Russia would kill all 39M Ukrainians, Israel on the other hand most definitely is trying to kill all Palestinians. Russia just wants a buffer zone between them and NATO as well as those very valuable natural gas deposits and of course a port that doesn’t freeze shut every winter. Also to boot the Kievan Rus originate in that area so it’s kinda like taking back their ancestral land.
You didn’t say explicitly but strongly implied. I understand what you’re trying to say, I’ve thought about it more than you, and I’m not a raging bigot, so I’m rejecting the idea you’re having trouble articulating because you can’t make it sound not-evil even in your straw man that in no way resembles the actual thing.
Except that last part. That was me calling you a 14 year old who thinks Ayn rand was smart.
I mean I explicitly and strongly disagree with that synopsis for whatever it’s worth. In its most general sense it’s just an aspect of reality. A gazelle wanting to keep its life and a lion wanting to eat the gazelle. Group X wants something group Y doesn’t want to give. In a lot of circumstances it is evil but not all. Like conceptually this shouldn’t be a highly contested thing, it’s about as everyday as the sum rising and setting.
And you think these two concerns are equal or equivalent to a property transaction? Do you not understand how death works?
I’ll repeat what I’ve said. I brought up land and you said land doesn’t matter so to get the point across I moved on to something I think does matter to you personally. Of course to others their land is like their life and they are willing to kill and die for it, since you’re not currently in that circumstance I had to equate it to something.
I don’t think an ownership change of land is the same as the end of a life, no. The land remains.
No person I know owns land. My landlord is a corporation. Has always been a corporation.
I don’t think the feelings of colonizers count, matter, or are genuine. They’re all theatrical liars making shit up yo justify their racial supremacist and theocratic genocides. They would in nearly every case defile and destroy the thing rather than give it up, and that doesn’t sound like the thing is what’s important to them, but their fetishization and dominance of the thing.
I don’t think you could comprehend my value system if you tried, and I don’t think you have, or respect you enough to explain.
The world is big, just because you’re personally experiencing something doesn’t mean everyone else is having the same experience, that everyone lives in the same country, and so on. For instance Palestinians are willing to fight and die for their land even though the individuals don’t own all of the land, same for Ukrainians in Ukraine. It’s not like every last soldier owns all the land they are defending.
Those are both extermination wars where they previously ceded land and it didn’t stop the aggression.
They fight or they die. The Ukrainians could also run. You don’t know what you’re talking about, and are trying to fit real world situations to your bullshit. Call me when you’re old enough that the fact you still ‘date’ twelve year olds is creepy.
They could just run. I doubt Russia would kill all 39M Ukrainians, Israel on the other hand most definitely is trying to kill all Palestinians. Russia just wants a buffer zone between them and NATO as well as those very valuable natural gas deposits and of course a port that doesn’t freeze shut every winter. Also to boot the Kievan Rus originate in that area so it’s kinda like taking back their ancestral land.
You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.