The people doing all the beginning research & work from decades ago should have skipped automobiles-motorcycles & such, as they should phased-out or at worse- replaced with 1 per 10,000 of people or more with: solar panels on bodies, flying & self-driving versions of automobiles, with storage & room for many people. Gone right to our species (the normally used term is sexist) powered cycles, more or less than just two-wheels.

What you think?

I dislike the laziness & getting in the way & on non-motored pedestrians ways of motorized cycles, scooters & Etc…

With the above in consideration, do you consider:

Motorized cycles, scooters & Etc. actually cycles, scooters & Etc. or just different type of automobiles? After all they did exist extremely early on, before motorcycles,

&

Self-driving cycles, scooters & Etc. actually cycles, scooters & Etc. or not?
&
If not, then what do you consider them?

  • Tehdastehdas@piefed.social
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    Two-wheelers are very light and compact to park, but they also can’t keep you dry in rain, fall over on ice, and get stolen too often.

    Adding bicycle-class cars to the mix would help more people give up full-size two-ton cars.

    Kyburz Plus, top speed 30km/h

    • Gross weight ~10% of a typical electric car, so probably ~10% tyre dust too. Heavy enough to make theft difficult compared to e-bikes.
    • For bikeways. If the plastic surface were designed to yield in a crash, a pedestrian could be safer hit by this than by a bare biker on a bare metal bike.
    • Takes less space than a biker because a 4-wheeler can be steered more accurately than a naturally unstable bike needing wobble margins.
    • Banned in many places through lawfare: https://xfwnofqagsnmdxuf.quora.com/Lawfare-against-tiny-cars-velomobiles
    • GreatWhite_Shark_EarthAndBeingsRightsPerson@piefed.socialOP
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      10 days ago

      Two-wheelers are very light and compact to park, but they also can’t keep you dry in rain, fall over on ice, and get stolen too often.

      I have only used a bicycle, rain & cold, prepared have rain gear, same rain gear can be used as cold gear. I next never fallen over, I have never bicycled in snow/ice. I have only had one, crapy bicycle stolen, even parked & locked-up in proper bicycle rack & college’s police had cameras point right towards the bicycle rack. Since was such a falling a part bicycle, I chucked-it-up to a unhoused person needing a bicycle.

      *- It is a awesome example of why all the recording cameras in the world, cannot replace enough members of our species patrolling!

      I have seen automobiles likes these. Can go faster than average bicycler can go. Motorized automobiles not bicycles. No motorized vehicles in cycle-pedestrian ways, means safer because of speed & lighter weights.

      Takes less space than a biker

      You mean someone in a traditional/non-motorized cycle?

      because a 4-wheeler can be steered more accurately than a naturally unstable bike needing wobble margins.

      Also do not forget margins are increased with faster speeds,